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4 years ago
Valma
Ananas, i could not have said it better and can confirm nearly everything that you say in your post. And yes lets talk openly about the use of black magic here. Black magicians can look like normal beings at first, or can be very sweet and seductive. Be warned where you may fall into without even knowing it. To think that there is going to be another mega-event in Lisbon next month with mas
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
4 years ago
Valma
All good wishes to you Annette. May your courage to speak out and share with us what you went through encourage others to come forward and do what is right for them and for all others who still struggle with doubt and confusion. Reading your last post reminds me of the Oneness and Love that connects us all and is availalbe all the time. Thank you and be well.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
4 years ago
Valma
i never forgot from book INITIATION written by Elisabeth Haich, a yoga teacher, words of a High Priest in ancient Egypt to a young would-be novice: "Moved to the depths of my being, I fall to my knees before Him. Ptahhotep holds out his hand, raises me to my feet, and says: My little daughter, never bend your knees before a visible form. Do not humble within yourself the divinity that eve
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4 years ago
Valma
I found another testimonial of someone asking for help to a teacher after having sailed for a while on the Mooji boat. All these testimonials speak for themselves: it will save you a lot of trouble if you avoid the Moo boat altogether unless you like a sailing full of trouble. If anyone amongst members here wants to read the whole page/article, please PM me so i can give you the reference w
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
4 years ago
Valma
Welcome Ro in this forum of free witty brave spirits willing to educate themselves and share what we have learnt! Thank you for sharing your experience. The Guru PAPER is such a valuable piece to learn from; here another quote from it: At the heart of the ultimate trap is building and becoming attached to an image of oneself as having arrived at a state where self- delusion is no longer p
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
4 years ago
Valma
Testimonial found on Facebook (perhaps better not mention the page in view of what Annette said just above?) After just hearing about the tragic death of Flo Camoin at Monte Sahaja I would like to share my experience after following Mooji for the past year. I met him in the 2017 season in Rishikesh for the first time during the open Satsangs. I was overwhelmed by the energy in Satsang and the
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
4 years ago
Valma
AnnetteChappelle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Corboy, > > Here’s one for my friends at Sahaja from me > > ____________________________________________________ Maybe that could help too:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
4 years ago
Valma
Welcome Annette and big thank you for speaking out. I was just thinking this morning how important it is that people who have had first hand experience with Moo speak out and know that they dont stand alone. I never lived in Monte Sahaja, only went to a couple of retreats with this teacher and followed him online where we get the official version of Moo which easily creates online devotees of a p
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
4 years ago
Valma
Hello Not-afraidofmooji! I hear your point. If i understand correctly, we are dealing with an organization (promoted as to help their clients/students find spiritual Freedom) that has its members/head/team/lawyer join this thread under an anonymous name not to contribute or help members questioning and/or having experienced issues with that organization's methods and actions, BUT to use i
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
4 years ago
Valma
This lady C. S. is an elderly lady who is one of the greatest fans of Moo and in total adoration of him from what i gathered from her very many posts on the Sangha Facebook group. So dont expect her to have an objective view on the topic. I noticed that she stayed for a little while in Sahaja and was completely thrilled with the experience as this was her most cherished wish to meet the master
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
4 years ago
Valma
Sahara71, i love your sense of humour, that one post of yours made me burst out laughing. But yes, lets keep vigilant about our doings on this much valued platform. Papajisaysno: many thanks for your many very useful contributions. Wishing you well in all your ways.
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4 years ago
Valma
I would like to thank all the new contributors to this thread with their sharing. Much respect and admiration for all you guys who made it out of the Mooji's influence and particularly those who lived for awhile in Monte Sahaja. You are the living proof of the power of the human mind to pass the "test by Life" represented by Mooji as Papajisaysno calls it. But it is a recovery proc
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
Hello Aline, I am fairly new to this forum but i hope you will read the many posts and find the information here as helpful as it has been for my own questioning why i had followed Mooji for so long and how I understood what Freedom really is once I stopped following Mooji. I am feeling even embarrassed to admit that I had been a deluded follower of his. There are personal reasons why I was hook
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Err...CEI has a vast discussion of Byron > Katie. > > > She changed her story a number of times before > coming up with the > instant enlightement story focusing on the > cockroach. > > The Anticult, who supplied many, many analyses of > conversational trance induction > met
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
I did a little comparison exercice between 2 modern spiritual teachers, Mooji and Byron Katie: 1) Both have built up a big business and worldwide network "family" on the enlightenment market with help of modern technology. 2) Both have based their teaching method on their own individual awakening experience and teach a "new" kind of method: the Work for Byron Katie, the
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
> But in her very lengthy promotion of Moo, old Joan > does say: > > "It seems to be no secret that he has had > romantic relationships with young women who are > also devotees, which raises a red flag in many > people's minds, but I don't see anything > inherently abusive about it." > > Moo has sex with his young female devotees but &
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
Another interesting video/feedback of someone who questioned Mooji & co
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
Latest video of H. Jolicoeur where he shows a satsang with Papaji (the sound of it is not so good but some of it is transcribed by Henri.) Also a very interesting remark he makes about giving new names to people in such a spiritual group setting.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
As myself an ex-wife of a less famous "guru" i was keenly observant of Radha during my time with Mooji. From experience i knew how psychologically difficult it is to be the young wife of a guru. You are married to a man who is to your amazement looked upon as a god, when you as his intimate partner experience him as the ordinary man he is with his bright and not so bright sides. I saw t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
Horowitz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The wedding pics Mooji and Radha in Tirunnamalai > in 2012 were from “Nitya Mooji fb” it was taken > down by Mooji’s media PR. Nitya has been living > in Monte Sahaja for many years. Surprise: All the pictures on Facebook you mentioned have been taken down Well, not so surprised really..
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
Another point before i take a break : Mooji likes to talk about his sangha as "family". I think mixing the concept of "family" and what it entails with association around a teacher is fallacious in subtle ways, especially that the final goal is freedom from all bondage from teacher/tools and methods.Try to get out of such a family/sangha/egregor/pendulum* entity, and you will
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5 years ago
Valma
Sahara71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > I really think that the stress of this all is > taking its toll on the poor lass. Her face is > defiantly much thinner. I hope her Mom sends her a > food package in the mail! I too feel compassion for her as i see in her my own young naive self when i started my spiritual journey. I too de
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
zizlz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Valma, > > I've had the same error. The problem turned out to > be that I typed text in an editor which formats it > as UTF8. Then I pasted the text in here but this > forum only accepts Latin character encoding. The > solution for me was to first paste the text into > an online UTF8 t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
Phorum Database Error Sorry, a Phorum database error occurred. Please try again later! Error: Illegal mix of collations Does anyone know what that means? I got it when i wanted to post a message here.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
Latest video of Amma Tanya:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
Amma Tanya has written a number of new messages on her Facebook page. Do have a look at it. She is a mouthpiece for many who are still in fear. Here is one of her latest comments: I have come to the full realization through my experience of discovering that my former Guru Mooji is not AT ALL who he presents himself to be. And it is the following: People's emotional and spiritual wou
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
> home.” This was on a teachers page named Jeff > Brown. Jeff Brown mentioned he has mentioned Mooji > in his new book, just out, as an example of > “ungrounded spirituality”. > > Jeff Foster wrote in his comments that he has had > many people come to him about what is in the Be > article and he knows it’s not gossip. > Jeff Foster has coined a new word: Ne
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
On questioning Mooji let us listen to what someone has to say: " As a person who has been involved in investigative journalism for 25 years, I would say that what Be Scofield reports is both credible and troubling. It is not perfect, but it raises a number of points which deserve more scrutiny, something that many are clearly trying to avoid. A bit of background: I was involved with Ra
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
This Mooji saga is an unfortunate discredit and distraction to a life of true spirituality. But there are excellent comments and recent quotes on this forum to put things in perspective and help everyone concerned including those who followed Mooji at one time or the other in their respective healing and/or further spiritual life. Thank you so much. I concur with Mama Sahara (if you allow me this
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Valma
Sahara71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's unusual that Moo would ask for the people's > forgiveness. Are we getting closer to a confession > from Moo? > > His team are asking people to stop kissing Moo's > feet, too. Now, a simple 'namaste' on greeting the > great Moo will suffice. > > Why? Why th
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