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6 years ago
puresoul
The secret five names of RS beas (also recited by Ching Hai's group) is: 1. Jot Niranjan. 2. Omkar. 3. Rarankar. 4. Sohang. 5. Sat Nam The Radhasoamis of Agra(who are the original) have a different Mantar. For them "RadhaSoami" is the mantar given to them not the 5 worded mantar of Beas. In fact Jaimal Singh wasn't even given the "gurgadhi" by Shiv Dayal.
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7 years ago
puresoul
This google translation is based on the news reported in 1989 in a mainstream Taiwanese newspaper. Takar went to Taiwan in 1989 and confirmed Ching Hai was his disciple.
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7 years ago
puresoul
I also know one guy was the last one to be caught on "being Ching Hai's monks" fever movement in early 1990. Years later in 1998, he broke to a few initiates that he'd full of complaints and regrets of his choice. He was a qualified medical doctor graduated from a privileged medical college. In order to show his devotion to an enlightened master - Ching Hai, he quit his jo
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7 years ago
puresoul
from Igor72 QuoteHallo from Germany, i,m an 40 years old Italian man,which is living a NIGHTMARE since my ex partner met in 2007 Ching Hai personally (as she did wrote in a vegan hamburg blog !), and became Vegan !! ..we have a 3 years young little girl (Neyla ) ,which i cannot see since last 30-12-2011 (i could only see Neyla for one hour !) and her mum (Anna Ciecinski) doesn,t let m
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7 years ago
puresoul
About that new Ching Hai's intstruction of watching the video to learn meditation that could be a new easy way of recruitment, so vegans WATCH OUT! I've witnessed a lonly elderly going to Loving Hut (could be regularly) under a staff's (Ching Hai's fanatic follower) advice just to glue to SMTV/videos.(recently)
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7 years ago
puresoul
QuoteKoldin Somehow the Thakar Singh spiritual diary still lurks about on the internets even on that same site as follows: If the link goes away please try this link at FileSwap Also Kirpal Singh the direct master of Thakar also had this diary for his followers. Comparing the above two diaries one can easily see where ching hai got her ideas for a diary for her followers. Going t
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7 years ago
puresoul
Of course, frequently giving out "outrageous" instructions/new rules are Ching Hai's tactics to get followers confused and tighten her control. There were many initiations since 2009, so you can imagine any instructions can be changed anytime by her own whims. Why can't she just really quit! I can imagine now the existed disciples will feel they are one of few "privi
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7 years ago
puresoul
An evidence of "thrill-seeking" behavior from Supreme Master Ching Hai. A recent instruction from Supreme Master Ching Hai ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear brothers/sisters For your information we have received the instruction below from Master. =============
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7 years ago
puresoul
There's a circulated email saying Supreme Master Ching Hai was seemingly interviewed by several mainstream newspapers about her article of " Supreme Master Ching Hai Speaks about Situation on Korean Peninsula". Her disciples believe she is some kind of influential figure and have her say on any international crisis. Of course, as usual, she is best to use any crisis to promote he
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7 years ago
puresoul
I was approached by one of them in street. It raised my interest, so I checked it up. I found this piece of information below, so I believe it is a cult. The founder, Woo Myung, lives on Long Island even though the main compound is in Korea. In either level 4 or 5, a hymn praising Woo Myung must be learned. All levels are secretive unless you are in that level and level 8 members are only p
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7 years ago
puresoul
From my observation and personal experience, I think Ching Hai very much fits the description of the following characters of the Profile of Cult Leaders: 1. Glibness/Superficial Charm Glibness is a hallmark of psychopaths. They are able to use language effortlessly to beguile, confuse, and convince. They are captivating storytellers. They exude self-confidence and are able to spin a web tha
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7 years ago
puresoul
As I recall.. Since 2002 when she hided in Europe from her environmental crime ( the Biscayne National Park) committed in the USA, She's been sending out her new outrageous CLAIMS, prophecies, instructions, announcements almost on every 3 months basis to disciples. I think one of the purpose of these actions is to Maintain her control over her disciples. Many grandiose claims mainly to
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7 years ago
puresoul
Quotethinkagain Her books are just crap.. the way she asked pupils to buy her books from amazon was disgusting.. I still remember watching her saying how we, her pupils, have to buy her crap from amazon.com... disgusting.... how evil is it, to use people for the sake of her benefit? In the name of love, peace and god? Ching Hai is cunning.... Yes! I remember having received an emai
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7 years ago
puresoul
For the past few years for the sake of saving from 2012 the end of world.... Lots of disciples have been exploited financially heavily , health deteriorate resulting from poor diets & trying to meditate 24 hours, free labors for SMTV 24 hour work (nobody watching except disciples), some pensioners took out all retirement pension to set up and pay Loving Hut chain businesses, some people qu
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7 years ago
puresoul
QuotegreenleafNews !!!!! Destinies of the planets: Revelation On Mars, Venus and Earth TO END IN 2012? Supreme Master Says: 10,000 More Years!!! Looks like Ching Hai tries to erase the past scaremongering message she'd been spreading for last 4 years. quote: "Dear Brothers and Sisters, Please find attached the sticker with Master's latest message as well as the mess
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7 years ago
puresoul
A good analysis of Supreme Master Ching Hai Religious Showbiz Guru of Glitz RELIGIOUS SHOWBIZ GURU OF GLITZ She has proclaimed herself ‘The Supreme Master’ - yet most people have never heard her name or don’t know of her, or. She has declared: ‘I do not belong to Buddhism or Catholicism. I belong to the Truth and I preach the Truth...you may call it Buddhism, Catholicism, Taoism, or w
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7 years ago
puresoul
QuoteRueo AnonI am an initiate of Master Ching Hai. I daresay that I have not always agreed with her teachings. In fact, I have been very openly critical of her (and fellow initiates) on many occasions. Yes, if I had known her personally, I probably would have even argued with her and received one of her infamous, almighty scoldings! I wish I had found the meditation earlier in life. Even tho
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8 years ago
puresoul
The group has been in extremely secretive since the early years of establishment due to the psychological insecurity of the cult leader Supreme Master Ching Hai. The group stood in criticisms as soon as she started. The criticisms mainly come on her behaviors. She learned Sant Mat light and sound meditation technique (the Quan Yin method) from Thakar Singh around 1980-1982. Her poetry of “ Si
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8 years ago
puresoul
As for SM logo, which SMCH claims she designed it out of inspirations from heaven, a gift brought down from heaven, so everyone MUST respect this sacred logo. We used to think this logo is pretty and UNIQUE. One day I spotted a very similar picture shown on the film “ The age of innocence” (released in 1993). They are not identical, but quite similar. Her SM logo was produced around 1994/1995. I
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8 years ago
puresoul
Initiation process is more or less the same as Sant Mat RSSB initiation RSSB initiation
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8 years ago
puresoul
The 5 names are given at initiation. More precise info: 5 names Sant Mat cult
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8 years ago
puresoul
"Master's" Instructions 0418 New Slogan Master says that the new slogan now is: BE VEGAN, MAKE PEACE. Master instructs to disregard the old slogan and use this new slogan from now on – on all letterheads, flyers, etc. SM logo Master says Her instructions about not using the SM logo only applies to clothes (because they are washed together with undergarments and socks), fa
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8 years ago
puresoul
Thanks for updating. :) Recent "Master's" instructions: message Reminder 0415: "From immediate effect, we cannot print Master’s photo, SM logo, and SMTV website on materials that people will discard and throw away or in places that is not proper. All flyer and other material that already has Master’s photo, SM logo or SMTV website on it and if you are not using it
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8 years ago
puresoul
QuotetranI think we have to have believe . in people. try not to concentrate on the her teachings, but rather just the company of the friends who happen to follow her teachings. make it a non -discussion and things wil be ok. Thats what I find works, when we talk not much mention of teachings etc just talk about other stuff. so happy days and things can work.. with hope comes faith.. with
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8 years ago
puresoul
corrections for the above 'screen out the "attendance"'.
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8 years ago
puresoul
Below is an example to show the absolute obedience commanded from organization and Master. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Foreign_Group Date: 2008/12/27 Subject: message from Saint Martin Center 1227 To All Centers: 1. Please inform all centers that people who are sick are not allowed to come to Saint Martin Center. If they are permitted to come, both the patient
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8 years ago
puresoul
QuoteKoldin We know ching hai has already banned some of her own initiates from watching certain secret teachings/lectures videos because she doesn't trust any of you in the group. She also doesn't allow any initiates to take home certain videos to watch(only allowed to watch in center with supervision). So it seems this group is in a state of paranoia as regards all her evil secrets le
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8 years ago
puresoul
About Who is Ching Hai’s real master? There’s an interesting deduction from Sambhavapaya about Khuda Ji who ching hai claimed to be her real master. (1)Khuda Ji is 450 years old. The span of time of Sant Mat from Guru Nanak to Thakar Singh happened to be around 450 years also. (2)Khuda in Punjab language for Sikh is a synonym of “Self-enlightened God”. Ji means sacred. What she want
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8 years ago
puresoul
A piece of news in year 2000 in Taiwan is about some disciples of ching hai rented a room from this top academia research intitute holding a interview/conference with smch. The attendants included few outsiders. Therefore smch were not asked difficult questions. This was recorded in a vedeo with title “been invited to Academia Sinica”. This vedeo is very popular in the group. The Academia Sini
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8 years ago
puresoul
Over the years more people dropped out the group than the number of newcomers. It’s normal for followers to leave. The organization don’t chase them. So if you’re a follower of Ching Hai, feel free to leave.
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