@ Ocean_of_Lies Very good point you raised here! Indeed the Supreme Master TV itself is full of copyright infringements. :) The entire program apart from some shots & interviews done by camera crew team, the rest are just pieced up bits of here & there of internet videos /TV/ film clips. They are more like high school ‘PowerPoint’ homework projects. Nothing professional! Nothing or
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QuotepuresoulQuoteKoldinHi Ocean_Of_Lies, Somehow the Thakar Singh spiritual diary still lurks about on the internets even on that same site as follows: If the link goes away please try this link at FileSwap Also Kirpal Singh the direct master of Thakar also had this diary for his followers. Comparing the above two diaries one can easily see where ching hai got her ideas for a diar
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QuoteOcean_Of_LiesThat's just crazy! O_o' URGENT LIVE BROADCAST FROM SUPREME MASTER CHING HAI par Supreme Master TV, mardi 23 août 2011, 19:10 Recently, with a deep yearning for the world’s conflicts to subside, Supreme Master Ching Hai courageously revealed which leaders’ headquarters are located near or on roads and sub-portals leading to the lower worlds and hell, along
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By the way, any scum can claim the same thing like ‘ because I’m a real deal,- a God incarnated- so people always want to find faults with me’ to get away with all the wrongdoings & criticism. Unfortunately, chinghai’s followers didn’t know this trick all the fraud gurus love to play on their disciples. QuoteOcean_Of_LiesIt also proves that some of them are liars and don't want ot
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QuoteKoldin That year, this meeting was so secret, you were not even allowed to even tell your spouse you were heading off to an undisclosed address in the outskirts of Hungary. Only a chosen few were informed of this meeting. Those present were never to tell anyone until suddenly a few months later the edited videos came out & a bit of disharmony ensured within the group for which ching ha
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Money can buy anything. Money can buy fame too. With money, chinghai can hire a bunch of musicians to compose music and perform for her. Another coming event to promote chinghai's godly figure. The so-called True Love life stories of chinghai based entirely on one-sided fairy-tales told from Chinghai only. As she has serious narcissitic disorder in addition to been living in her own fantac
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QuoteOcean_Of_LiesQuotegreenleafMissing one Part....sorry for my typos in all my posts, hopefully I got my words across clearly. Part IV Dangerous Sign ----You disciples should be breatharian... Master, should not. Since I am still in various email list, I am still getting emails from various sources, 'master' just had a retreat in Taiwan at the beginning of this year,
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Chinghai is also good at playing two-faced game.. She praised SMTV crew’s devotion work and lured them that they will get many many merits from heaven. At the same time, on one gathering in Paris center, She blamed their lousy works bringing headaches to her. At the event of Q&A conference with LA center, when LA initiates didn’t follow her strict instruction to read questions in order
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Quotegreenleaf about Master’s new announcement – due to her/group’s salvation work, the date of end of the earth in 2012 was changed!!! We have more days to live now ---- The entire God’s messages she said are probably just from her own ‘opinions’ not ‘wisdom’. She used to preach heavily to treat ‘intuitive thinking’ as God’s messages. Especially in early days, she explicably pointing out her o
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QuoteOcean_Of_LiesNew updates in A chinese section have been added. It would be nice if chinese language readers check the titles for any mistakes (for the JPG files), complete missing information (articles date and author, if known) and time to time, send some more materials in chinese. I can't do it alone cos my chinese is just beginer level. @Greenleaf : thanks for your enlighte
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QuoteKoldinHi Ocean_Of_Lies, Somehow the Thakar Singh spiritual diary still lurks about on the internets even on that same site as follows: If the link goes away please try this link at FileSwap Also Kirpal Singh the direct master of Thakar also had this diary for his followers. Comparing the above two diaries one can easily see where ching hai got her ideas for a diary for her fol
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QuoteOcean_Of_Lies OSHAKATI – The Supreme Master Ching Hai church relief team last week donated food worth N$52 000 to the Oshana Emergency Coordinating Committee for flood victims in northern Namibia. worth on the local currency, not on real $US dollars QuoteOcean_Of_Lies “When Master learnt of the tragedy, she immediately instructed fellow initiates in South Africa to provide assista
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QuoteOcean_Of_LiesQuoteThe AnticultAs well, entire websites can be automatically downloaded for offline browsing, for free, using software. That can be helpful when the sect is trying to do a cover-up. Problem : It seems impossible to download a website when it's only on google cache. Apparently it has to be an active website. I'll try to download godsdirectcontact.org next monday, bu
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She also owns another hotel. Which used to be Austria center for a short while. Now opens for business. She paid all the hotels/properties (her houses/at least two mansions/villas with pretty view) in CASH, with her followers’ money, of course!
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More bullshits from chinghai , videos shown as on this link-probably won’t stay long as they are not allowed to download from SMTV. Topic title: breatharian, God quality & the power of Quan-Yin method in December 2010 The stuff used to be ‘initiates only’ are now broadcasted on SMTV and no secrets anymore. Some of her ardent followers have put the scripts on their blogs. Unfortunately, a
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The passers-by’s nice impression of the group, because she is good at flattering them & the sect know how to act well to deceive & defect the notion of being a religious group. Another info of what’s her motive of starting the sect. From a piece of recollections of a famous passed away Buddhist monk who Chinghai followed in 1984-1985, revealed that she used to stay at his New York Bud
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Actually the Cambodian government took things seriously and tried to control the activities of Ching Hai's sect. That's precisely why she stopped everything, then came back to Taiwan as fast as she left. She left Taiwan because Taiwanese government checked on her 'money' matter/ allegations of her scaming money out of her disiciples in 1996.
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The project of Cambodia was from 1996-1997, hundreds of people had been there & worked there until it failed. (The smtv episode is not accurate about 1995 retreat which was in Taiwan.) Ocean_of_lies, don't worry about the messages on this thread, till now, I see it's quite consistent. I also like another nick name of you-(2+2=5):), great, there's no logic of Chinghai's
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QuoteOcean_Of_Lies If you look at Ching Hai's "press-kit" , you notice that she has lots of "accolades" from officials. Also not long ago all centers were asked by headquarter to hang up chinghai with celebraties’ photos such as pictures she's with some Hollywood stars when she visited a party once with her generous jewelry gifts.
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QuoteOcean_Of_Lies Do anyone know if Ching Hai continued any activity there in Cambodia after people came back to Taiwan? The project failed in 1997. She blamed its failure due to some disciples wished it to fail. (was recorded on a vedeo) Then she got married with her attendant in May 1997 (seemed quite serious with two formal ceremonies) –(secret to disciples) and moved to USA until 2003.
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We would like to remind/inform you that the verse "Please recite Namo Ching Hai Wu Shang Shih." is forbidden from further use anywhere. The command from headquarter in Taiwan was 1.Submit or destroy all the tapes covers & books parts having the verse of “whoever sincerely recite Namo Ching Hai Wu Shang Shih will liberate his/her soul”. Shortly earlier to that announcement the
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QuoteNoMasterWhat the hell is this about? Why "lifelong" residents? Is it just a lifelong (?) "meditation retreat" or something like Scientology's SeaOrg? Sounds like she is recruiting attendents/monks.
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Somebody has checked the advert of her speech at United Nation. It was found out some halls at UN are free for outsiders to rent and give private speeches (not formal speech & not on UN official record) for private audience there for any trivial topics such as ‘ how to change nappies for babies’etc.
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QuoteOcean_Of_Lies But anyway, we can say whatever we want about her ugly face, she still has an DNA much more perfect than our DNA, even more than The Buddha himself's DNA (this have been determined by very advanced machines!), which definitely proves that we are shit compared to her totally-opened-chakras body. Definitely, she also claimed she is Super being, the original bright star so
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Another miracle (wild claim) done by Chinghai She claimed that she has liberated 98% of planet's population in 2004 & updated 99.8% in 2005, which means virtually almost every person on this planet has entered ‘Sainthood’-3rd level(Arhat level)-possessing higher consciousness because of Her Grace. Thus year 2004 was named Golden Year 1 by Chinghai. This miracle is just like the fairy ta
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She has explicitly told disciples that she is the reincarnation of Jesus. To disciples, Jesus come to save planet & animals make perfect sense to them. As the stories of Jesus was persecuted and crucified repeatedly told by Chinghai, it’s not surprise that disciples treat criticism as persecution (or devil workshop to obstruct God’s missions) and won’t believe any word of it. Another link to
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QuoteOcean_Of_LiesDiscovery Channel documentary on breatharian Prahlad Jani Part 1: Part 2: Part 3: Part 4: Part 5: I've watched these videos a few years ago, to be honest, I was quite inspired and wanted to meditate more...There's another story about an India holy man lived without eating for decades. Perhaps, supernatural phenomenon do occur. If people do i
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SMCH's believe system is based on SANT MAT For SMCH's followers wish to be free from that believe system, the following website has a good debate and challenge on that believe system. Anticults is right about some very devoted SMCH’s disciples will sacrifice anything for SMCH including forfieting their lives. As serve for God/God’s project/divine missions is honorable deed for ma
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QuotedynamicQuoteThe Anticult Ms Ching Hai knows this 100%. That is why Ms Ching Hai bans people taking in information from other groups. Ching Hai wants total information control. She wants you to watch only her TV station, books, and media. ... Its interesting that you bring that up. A couple of years ago, I think 3 or so, SMCH rolled out what she called "merit points" where by do
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