Peacebstill, Thank you for explaining things. I agree with you and see exactly what you are saying. On the context of the flyer, If that was just the question on the flyer to get people interested and then settle the question with the truth I see no wrong with that if that was what it is. If I saw a flyer that said ,Did Jesus have sex? I as a believer who knows the truth would not waste my time r
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You are still missing my point, may be I am ignorant because I do not know all about how Calvary is structured. My point was from preaching the word of god I have heard nothing non biblical in the messages I have listened to. I was also under the impression that there pastors were indeed educated and all have gone through seminary. If they are indeed uneducated and have not been through seminar
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Peacebstill, You act as if I am some huge Calvary supporter. I follow Christ, not a church. I am not part of Calvary Chapel. I have stated that I visited and it was not for me. The reason it was not for me was because of many things you stated, starbucks, light show, and just plain showmanship worship ext. All I said was I listen to some of the pastors on the radio and everything that I have he
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I said That is why the church body is made up. A church body consists of elders, deacons ext. That are accountable to the people in the church I agree 100% with you. And even if there was some kind of democratic government do you really think that it is completely not corruptible. I am not saying that you should blindly accept what a pastor tells you. and I think that a church can and should r
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Mod you are right I have not read the entire thread. My response was directed at the start of this thread to pelicangirl. I know some people who have been hurt by a calvary chapel, I can remember lots of messed up things that have happened in certain ones. But I still do not believe that every calvary chapel is a bad church. about the finances, Whenever I give money to any church or organizat
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Has anyone heard of Summerhaven? I visited there 8 years ago and got freaked out. It is a commune in between Phelan and Palmdale California. An elderly woman runs the place and they have a huge food ministry. They are all separated from society. they have a school, living accommodations and a huge cafeteria. I was told by the woman in charge, on my visit, that god told her I was supposed to
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When it comes to Christianity and church I can say that allot of people who come from an abusive past with a history of addiction or an addictive personality will often use church and christianity in an unhealthy way. There are always going to be the extremists in every church and just because you might know an unstable person who attends a certain church don't blame that church. I listen to
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I remember that when I was at Set Free they sent me to do some work at a place in between Phelen and Palmdale out in the middle of the desert. This place was a commune and a food ministry. They had living accommodations, a school, farm and a large cafeteria. I remember the leader to be an elderly lady. I was supposed to stay there for a week but after the leader told me God had told her I was s
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I was involved with Set Free for a few years. I was not involved with phil's church and I asked why phil and his church never came to the events in the inland empire and was told that they were separate from our church's. This was more than 8 years ago. I can say that through set free I found the lord and have been off of heroin for the last 8 years, but I can also say that they make
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