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14 years ago
SuzyQ
Educating people about cults and their methods is the only way to get someone out. Unfortunately, not many people involved in these groups are all that interested in educating themselves when it means giving up the fantasy. The possibility of Eternal Life on a Paradise Earth is so much more appealing than the harsh reality of You Live, You Die. Don't wait around until your friend's
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
SuzyQ
Hi left_of_the_dial, You don’t have to defend mindfulness as a path to happiness and mental stability. No one is arguing against it here. It’s the harmful bunk these people (gurus) sell along with techniques such as mindfulness, staying in the present, not obsessing over past and future, meditation…etc (techniques that DO make people feel better) that I have a case against. Eckhart Tolle is s
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
SuzyQ
Hi Brainstormer, I don't know if you come around here any more, but thought I'd answer you anyway. I never met Bennet, but spent a few years in a group led by someone "of that line" (or so I was told) What you said about Mrs. Bennet being emotionless and cold is something that is (becomes) true of many of the women following the Gurdjiff teaching. I experienced it f
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
14 years ago
SuzyQ
Raised a Jehovah's Witness and spent a few years in a Gurdjieff group recently. In between, read and tried out a lot of different stuff without getting involved in any group. But hey, It was worth it, I've finally become enlightened and realize what a load of crap ALL mystisism/cult/new age/religion is. It was an important part of my life and I definately understand why people g
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
14 years ago
SuzyQ
"until my 30th year, I lived in a state of almost continuous anxiety interspersed with periods of suicidal depression". Then he gives a bizarre account of how one day his... "mind stopped", and "there were no more thoughts", "for the next 5 months, I lived in a state of uninterrupted deep peace and bliss", "the suffering self collapsed".
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
SuzyQ
inner.anarchy, Guess what? Amazing experiences can be had absolutely free. Having this "idea", that energy and amazing experiences can be given by one person to another, is exactly the mind set needed to allow these charlatans to rip you off. The times you spent $ and received nothing and the times you spent $ and have had an amazing experience or feel you have "grown&qu
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
SuzyQ
Haskellbob, I loved what you had to say about Gurdjieffans being MORE asleep than the "general population"...thinking all along that they are awake, awakening, and/or somehow better than others. It seems that this is more often than not the case. One thing though, the "robotic" dances are anything but robotic, they only look that way. You actually can't perform them
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
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