Some People Don't Have Brains! Siddha has some unusual sources for his scientific evidence or he makes it up as he goes along. This snippet of a Siddha lecture discusses individuals born without a brain whatsoever who go on to lead normal and successful lives. Even 'straight A' students he claims.
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Harry Bol, Out of curiosity why have you come on this forum? Do you accept Siddhaswarupananada as a bona-fide spiritual master or do you just like the lifestyle of ASM and you are not overly convinced? What is your view of people that are attempting to create awareness of the negative aspects of your organistion? You say that this attempt has become somewhat distressing to ASM/SIF yet you
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What goes on here re above and has been for months is why anti cult efforts lack credibility - maybe there is some reason why irreverent discussion is allowed to go on while we are at making up conspiricies. Noone here is anti SIF or genuinely trying to do anything about it and real people only get sucked in here by mistake.
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Have explained this to you before Rick if you want to ban people because they are not following the script in your show go ahead. It is a Global Gossip with 45 pcs. Two people and neither of them give a shit anymore. Check all the posters above while you are at it.
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Just a few facts for those who are still wondering if it may help : 1. Cultreporter was kicked out of ASM for her relationship with Brendon Rice. ASM has admitted as much through their actions of offering to amend the relationship when they could not get the site taken down. Radha Krishna das has shown his true colours in this whole affair. 2. Cultreporter has been harrassed and assaulted b
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Quotejules I would like to hear Zeligs take on all this! He was very insightful and I believe had many good comments to say. Dont worry jules just-googling will make sure that his opinion (if he indeed exists in his own right) will be posted. Maybe cultreporter was offered that illusive book deal and there was a clause prohibiting her from further exposure. She certainly has enough material
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Quote"Dassi" In mid August “cultreporter” posted a flurry of articles on the “chriskcon” website she has taken down. She was about to launch a fundraising campaign with flyers and pamphlets warning about the dangers of certain types of meditations and how cults lure people in through these centers. Quote One minor error here - there was no fundraising campaign Chriskcon was
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I would like to try to answer to all that, although there is a lot there good to see that people are still interested. Firstly of all the above posts from Dassi all seem to expect/demand explanations from someone who at the same time is being told not to judge or question others at the same time as seeming to be upset by the loss of a site that Dassi denounced and joined in vilifying the creat
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Ha, ha, yeah Siddha thinks he's Anakin. In Star Wars increased mitochondrians was the sign of the chosen one, Chris Butler has his meridians. Uddhava dasi Linda Harvey's email is the email for www.gauranga.com. If you go to the site it's a blank page that just says gauranga.com. Started in 2002 for three years the site showed this image and then took it's current form:
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It seems as women's rights movement advance and bramachari SIF turned into householders there was less segregation. It was still completely chauvanistic and women were still expected to be submissive to their husbands but I don't know of any boys only club existing like that later on. A few women were allowed in the top circle. QuoteThis woman I speak of that was gay... Chris KNEW
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I don't think Butler respects christians in any of his lectures. He thinks church goers are ALL anti-christs and he of course is the only real christian/vaishnava. He claims to be non-religious but he wouldn't let his followers read the bible :P . One lady said she had an atraction to the bible and mentioned this on a recorded lecture and was chastized for it. The letter Siddha wr
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QuoteThe few women that did come around were "tolerated". So I have no clue what the male Chris gang talked about privately... they were like an exclusive all boys club! I didn't know that. Was even Katyani not allowed in the boys club? The boys club on this forum said that homosexuality was taught amongst the group to be religiously wrong in the early days but was not l
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Jivan has that Timothy Leary look doesn't he. The photography doesn't help. It was only created two weeks ago. They have him chanting Hallelujah as if to show he is really christian and a Hare Krishna. Great work SIF you did mention science of identity, but it needs to be in capital letters with the words 'Foundation' and 'organisation' included. The kid who o
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You have described the situation very cogently Shanti. However whether the group was all-pure and all-purifying and became a nutty destructive cult or was always a destructive cult doesn't really make that much difference in "real-life" if the end result is the same. IF the facts were he became nutty as time went on that would be the facts. I bought into the story they were grea
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September 17, 2001 The Pen Is Mightier Than The Sword BY VIDAGDHA MADHAVA DAS EDITORIAL, Sep 17 (VNN) — Let's test a few pens to see if they are 'mightier than the sword' The world was shocked on September 11th, when 19 men, willing to give up their lives for a cause, commandeered 4 commercial airliners and killed over 5,000 unarmed civilians, including women and chil
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Wednesday, October 11, 2000 18-year-old will be charged as adult The youth is expected to face attempted murder charges in a Sand Island shooting http://starbulletin.com/2000/10/11/news/artc.jpg By Rod Ohira Star-Bulletin Defense witnesses testified Bhima Guru Das cannot recite the alphabet, days of the week or months of the year in order and that the stepbrother he allegedly
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Googling, Your friend was banned for being a cult apologist before I had even heard of this forum. He was banned once again for being a nusiance, a cult apologist, a liar and a fraud. Your other friend, who had supported Zelig's cult apologist views, was banned for being a nusiance. Then there is you, returning to defend your cult apologist friends. You admitted you were in attempt
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I apparently don't know how to use the internet but the Rick Knickerbocker protest (cache button): Quote762|Rick Knickerbocker|19:59:12 3/05/99|dinak_@hotmail.com|California|USA||To whom it may concern:<P>By portraying Krishna, the Supreme Lord, and Hanuman, a great devotee of the Lord, as fictional personalities, the writers of the Xena show have committed a great o
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Rick Knickerbocker (retired) of Fair Oaks paid $500 to the Gabbard campaign. City of Vacaville/ Parks Maintainence QuoteAn account of viewpoint discrimination is that of a California county government employee, Rick Knickerbocker. From TOST, p. 15, here's his story of employee "heterocentric" views costing a deserved promotion in a sexual "minority"-affirming local gov
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Yes Z was an apologist. Why was he so quick to defend Siddha all the time? Nothing Nefarious ever happened in the cult he said. But whenever anyone mentioned anything nefarious happening in the cult he promptly came to Sid's defense saying, "Siddha didn't have anything to do with that, or he was never aware of that". How does "he" even know everything that Siddha
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QuoteScience of Identity Foundation, Inc. 3890 Araro St., Brgy. Palanan, Makati City TelNo: (02) 831-6383 / 550-1181 | FaxNo: (02) 831-6383 Email: Science of Identity Foundation, Inc (SIF) is a non-stock, non-profit corporation which was incorporated and registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission on December 4, 1978. Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa (Jagad Guru) is
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Quoteshanti From what I can tell, it was just what is stated here... land loaned by Howard Taylor to hippies. I never heard of any "living experiments" by shrinks. Zelig, you might not remember, was telling you that the land was bought by psychiatrists and one was conducting an experiment with the camp. There was little info on Howard to suggest he hadn't been involved with a
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This posted on a forum 4 years ago when Andy Smith was appointed by lingle: QuoteAmen to that! Garuda now plays rhythm guitar, and Andy Smith, a young guy who was last year's Republican candidate for State House from Hilo and who is now Gov. Lingle's liaison to the Big Island, is our star conga player. Young, mild-mannered Republican functionary by day, wild, conga-pounding kirtan gu
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Taylor camp was in existence from some time in 67 to 72 when local authorities burned down the main house and many people had left the camp. The reason I am interested is that this camp was allegedly formed as a social experiment by a group of psychiatrists. The doctor living in the camp was the zen master I am guessing from your accounts and I suppose he ran the "Church of Brotherhood of th
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Sorry I meant to say that it is alleged that part of the economy of the was gained through growing pot which is what I wondered if you knew anything about.
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If you are still with us Shanti what were the "sleeping deities" and why was that woman watching them in the jungles? Did Siddha actually say he was going to "awaken them"? That is unusual. Were there Siddha followers living in Taylor Camp or did they just stay for short periods? Was there much recruitment going on there? It is also alleged that part of the economy for Tay
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Ms. Shalie A Kibler of Chris Butler's home town Kailua Hi paid $4000 to Science of Identity hawaiian senator/cult member Gerald Michael Gabbard. Shalie Kibler's emai address (shalie@pristineearth.com) is or was linked to abandoned cult project pristineearth.com which Ms. Kibler wrote arictles for. The site is now redirected to the home page of Down to Earth Natural Food Stores site d
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Lydia Gleason (possibly related to Rasika dasi?) contributed $1600 to Mike Gabbard and as a psychologist was printed in Chris Butler's book "Who Are You?" as saying: Quote"This is the best book I've ever read on the subject of identity. If you really want to know who you are, then you absolutely must read it." - Lydia Gleason, PhD, psychologist. When Carol Ga
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QuoteCity Council Prayers - Overt Christian Proselytizing Unconstitutional HCSSC Press Release - Tuesday, November 12, 2002 NOTE: HCSSC would like to thank Mike Gabbard, Councilman-elect to the Honolulu City Council, for bringing this matter to our attention. Councilman-elect Gabbard gives the Hare Krishna religion a new voice on the City Council. Hare Krishna gurus will be invited to give th
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This comment which was left on The Honolulu Advertiser site mentions that Carter Phillips Reed admitted that Chris Butler was involved. Perhaps the article refered to is the 12th August 1992 Honolulu Weekly "Rick Reed's Inner Self" by Derek Ferrar when 7000 papers disappeared from the newstands. It was mentioned on this thread that the marriage was arranged and when Carter had
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