QuoteIs it common for her to seem normal some days and totally different other days? Yes, I believe this is common. Was your wife away from the group for a little while while she was busy with the holidays? Staying away from the group seems to allow the effects to wear off a bit. Also, she may have been thinking about the holidays and family, which would help push thoughts of the group out of
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Thanks, Corboy, for these posts. So much good information! I've experienced lots of outrage and anger when I've tried to warn/inform people about these groups -- even when I'm warning people on sites that have nothing to do with cults. Also, I've noticed that many of the people I chat with online -- who are clinging to old beliefs about the LGATs they were involved in ye
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Try this one:
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Oh, for goodness' sake, you're so obvious.
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Any news about whatever transpired?
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Est is also mentioned in a Fortune article titled "Nike vs. Reebok," as a way employees shun others and keep management who refuse to take The Forum out of the loop: QuoteMuddying the waters further is Fireman's interest in est, the human-potential program founded by Werner Erhard that drew thousands of devotees in the 1970s. The Reebok chief is outspoken in his admiration for e
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I was curious about why Fortune Magazine would have lauded Werner Erhard, as he states on his official website, wernererhard.com: QuoteFortune magazine’s 40th Anniversary issue (May 15, 1995), in examining the major contributions to management thinking, recognized Werner Erhard’s creation of est as the major innovation of the 1970s in shaping modern management thinking toward empowering people
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You're welcome/ QuoteI don't believe she's changed her name, as I've found references to a past career in Atlanta, GA under the name jackie woods. Me, too....but all those references seem to come from positive PR/spin probably written/approved by herself, so it's entirely possible she changed her name. None of those references lead to anything substantial. For exam
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perhaps she changed her name so it's difficult to find beckground info? Glam
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Quote .....especially when what they are "selling" amounts to ~nothing,~ or the equivalent of nothing; some cocked-up "ideological" hodge-podge, garbage "philosophy." I'd go even further: what they're selling is WORSE than nothing, it's a big box of psychological harm wrapped up in a twisted philisophical bow.
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Thanks, Sonnie Dee, for the info about who does/doesn't get paid. I'm amazed that even some of the people who run the seminars are "volunteers," too. QuoteRegardless of just whom works for cheap and who works for nothing, I think my point and question of JF still stands. I do hope you (Glam and Acid Raindeer) agree in this regard. I don't think Landmark should be a f
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the leaders who do the actual seminars get paid (quite underpaid, by the standards of the industries they used to work in), but leaders of the introduction nights do not.
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First, I want to say thank you for posting this information here. It's very educational. QuoteAssignment one: -find a way to cause possibility to be present for another such that they are touched, moved and inspired by that possibility or exhaust yourself trying. Wow. "Touch, moved and inspired" is Landmark's way of saying "enroll your friends."So basically
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QuoteOh by the way now she just mentioned to me that she wants to fly to Washington to spend some time with her new "best friend" , you cant make this stuff up... Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. This is a tough one. Of course, you can't stop her from going, but it sounds like this new "best friend" is looking for a way to get your wife alone and indoctrin
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Hi, and welcome! I haven't been through an LGAT myself, but my friend has. There's no need to feel ashamed -- these groups are pretty good at fooling people into believing what they do is worthwhile. You've come to the right place. There's a lot of good information available at this site. You might want to start with the "getting help" section: You mi
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Hi, and welcome! Sorry to hear about your wife's experience. Her actions sound, to me, typical of someone who's recently been through an LGAT -- and your reactions are also understandable (I reacted the same way when my friend went through Landmark). The way you're approaching things right now is really the best, although difficult. Because your wife is on a "high"
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Quote it is my belief that we are all responsible for our own actions. And must be held accountable as such. Yes, I can see why you would believe that. I believe that people in their right minds should definitely be held accountable for their actions. However, there are experts who believe that people under the influence of mind control are not truly in their "right minds;" although
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I find it interesting because when my friend talked to me about Landmark, I'd never heard of it before, and I had no idea what it was. It was only after months of him talking about it that I did some research and discovered what it actually was. I'd never heard of "deprogrammers" and wasn't even sure what a "cult" was. I don't think the vast majority of
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QuoteI was reading an article about Rick Ross and his 'deprograming' activities and it mentioned a link to this site so I thought I'd see if Landmark was on here as I'm interested to know what people think about it and I knew it has been likened to a cult. I find this interesting. When did you first hear Landmark being likened to a cult? Where did you hear of deprogramming,
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Hi Oz, Sad to see you go, but I do understand that you need a break. I've found your posts to be very enlightening and informative. "Jane" is very lucky to have someone like you in her corner, even though her unfortunate run-in with Landmark has caused her to resent the very person who is trying his best to help her. If/when you feel up to it, I'd be very happy to se
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QuoteSeriously, its only from reading some of the stuff on here that I began to wonder. I have no other reasons to think it has affected me in a negative way or in ways I hadnt realised. What brought you here?
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QuoteThat was why I started reading here originally, to see how the Forum may have affected me in ways I was not aware off. Hi, Joe. Of all the statements you've posted here, I find this the most interesting. Why do you feel the Forum might have affected you in ways you're not aware of? Have people you know made comments to you about a change in your personality or way of t
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Hi Sonnie Dee, Thanks for your post. Of course you'd know more about Landmark's definition of "integrity" than I would. But it does strike me that people who've been through Landmark's training all seem to have slightly different definitions or interpretations of the word, and one person tried to explain to me the different "levels" of integrity, of whic
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Hi, JF, and welcome. There's a wealth of information here on Landmark. Have you read this recent thread, started by a former paid staffer of Landmark education? You might find it interesting: And if you're at all interested in reading up on the psychology of the processes used in the Forum and the other courses, you may find this study of Lifespring, a group similar to Lan
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QuoteI thought it was "wrong" for them to get other Landmark people to do business with them? Something to do with integrity? Oh, I've never heard of this. Landmark doesn't help people to become more moral or to have more of what the majority of people consider to be "integrity." To a Landmarker, "integrity" basically boils down to being sure you attend a
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I love the idea. However, many anti-LEC websites have been shut down or removed from the web because of legal threats from Landmark. Anyone who starts such a site should expect a letter from their legal department, like this one sent to Linda Chase, who runs Rants and Raves Live: Some excerpts: QuoteI have reviewed your Web Site and it seems biased toward having people who read the m
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They're under the hypnotic (literally) spell of Landmark right now...so everything that happens in their lives seems to happen thanks to Landmark. I've seen this thinking even in people who've been away from Landmark for years. Quote What do you mean by "and with those people comes the potential for additional income, but it's possible he's been able to "enro
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QuoteHi Glam, What happened to his real job? Has it affected it in any way? Hmmm....he still has his real job, but now he attributes every professional success to Landmark, rather than to his own talent or experience. Not that he's gotten any better at his job or any more successful, just that what would be a normal occurence in his work life is now a "breakthrough" created &q
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QuoteMy friend is doing the ILP. I'm sorry to hear that. I know how you feel. :( Glam
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Quote Participants in ILP commit to a six month training programme with four weekend courses with other ILP groups in their country/region and weekly classrooms. The classrooms are usually 4 to 5 hours long they also must assist around the centre once a week (this is the minimum) most do more. Yes, he's been doing this. QuoteThey have coaches and teams that they will meet with at le
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