Rob, you are describing what sounds like a very complex situation, beyond the resources of a message board. Best and safest thing to do is find professional help for this person. Go to the homepage at culteducation.com and go to 'getting help' and identify some exit counselors.
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The Power of Personal Story Anticult April 05, 2009 06:50PM QuoteAlso, BK constantly uses HER stories, but you are supposed to drop your stories, and take on her carefully written stories. Annariadne wrote on Guruphliacs forum QuoteAt all times, there was a staff member in the back of the room speaking very softly into a dictophone, recording every story and event. Katie's
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Thanks to Anticults summary, I have a reply to make when anyone tries to get me to try 'The Work': All one has to do is reply, 'I dont want to support the BK industry.' Thats what this is. It is not spiritual. It is not an end to suffering. Its an industry, or to be yet more precise, a marketing empire, presenting itself as spirituality. Trade secrets, squabb
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Dear Christa: YES! That is exactly the song--except I did not know it was by Human League. Thank you! There is a current house or techno remix of this song in which only the man's resentful lyrics are given. The woman's voice is omitted. This, in a nutshell is a symptom of the backlash. We think that just because a few women have made it big, that there has been progress.
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The Anticult wrote: Quoteif you are being taken advantage of by BK, and you start to feel healthy anger toward her for tricking and exploiting you, if you buy into her system, you will turn that around back on yourself. Close devotees of Andrew Cohen suffered severe abuse from Cohen and his favored enforcers. They too were trained to turn around anger they rightfully felt toward Cohen back
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Years ago, in his 2000 Year Old Man routine, Mel Brooks tells his straight man Karl Reiner, why we have a skull over our brains: 'Do you want some total stranger coming along and stroking your brains? You'd get all scrambled, mess up your checkbook, lose money...' Mel didnt imagine the implications of hand held computers. If this is true, that's like cracking your cr
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Regarding the need for social connection, former New Age teacher Karla McLaren writes of this: QuoteSocial support is incredibly important; therefore, the U.S.-based studies that suggest that religious observance has a beneficial effect on health and psychological fitness leave me with a whopping big question: What would these studies show if there were a way to factor out the social supp
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For musical inspiration, folks should try and listen to a recording of the 1980s song that has the refrain, 'You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar' And get the original version. It includes dialogue from both the man and the woman. The current re-mix has only the man's material repeated over and over again, turning it into an obsessive self involved narcissistic ra
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Susan, what you said, QuoteMy feeling, after a a long period of healing from terrible but insightful experience with a group, is that it's not cults I have to be worried about, but cultlish tendencies within myself. This is just standard, blame the victim stuff. We need to feel connected as human beings. We are all under stress from time to time. That is the nexus through which any
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Anticult wrote: "The Work" is not the cult, its bait. This is worth printing in boldface type. "The Work" is not the cult, its bait Two, a thought about Ojai. It is a lovely area to live. However, for persons interested in such things, it is also quite closely associated with Jiddu Krishnamurti. He lived until the 1980s--which means he died not so lon
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If you are not sure, e-mail Mr Ross via the homepage of this website and he will explain it. For a very lively discussion, interested readers can go here: and Janaki's descriptions of copyright issues, both for her material and music composed by her husband is of the utmost interest.
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Hmmm.... Jay Cruise posted: QuoteByron Katie made the comment: "Victims are violent, violent people. Victims are freightened people and freightened people are dangerous." Methinks the Lady needs to do a Turnaround...on herself. Most of us are victimized because we lack the capability to kick ass (be assertiveenough/forceful enough/violent enough) to defend our bounda
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(a small excerpt..thanks to helpme2times for posting this on another thread--C) (("And as I saw endlessly in the new age, dulling the pain only helps people learn to tolerate it. In so many cases, that pain relief actually stops people from changing things for the better, because they're so inundated with an endless, serial pelting of magical cures that they sort of forget to a
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BK, as far back as 1995/6 or so, seemed to like using music. This is from Janaki's description of the first European tour Quote06 - The First European Tour The tour was a great experience. Katie had brought along American friends, as well as her daughter and grandson. And we all fitted in the van, together with our luggage and traveling bookstore. She called it ‘Havanna White’. On the
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Folks, here is something from Chapter 34 of Janaki's blog. It is worth looking at. Quote34 - The Rules & a New Religion The Rules and a new Religion Katie has often called The Work ‘check mate’. Check mate means ‘no way out’, it is the end of the road. I can see why it is said that The Work would lead to this. Nowhere to go, no one to blame, nothing to point your finger at
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QuoteAnonymous said... *eyes popping* reiki and meditation sessions to stop the new yorker article from being published? that... I mean. Wow. I am. Speechless. Not just the New Yorker article, Gurumayi had her tantric staff, doing mojo, to try to stop Sarah Caldwell from presenting the fatefaul and damaging info at the Academic Religious Scholars Conference, where the SY schola
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QuoteEVEN true believers were sorely tested by a series of bizarre events that took place in Ganeshpuri at the end of 1985, when it was suddenly announced that Muktananda had named Nityananda as co-guru for only a three-year period, that the time was up, and that Nityananda was therefore stepping down both as co-successor and as a swami. To many in SYDA's ashrams back in the United Stat
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Precedents for re-writing history. Before Muktananda died, he appointed Gurumayi and Nityananada co-successor gurus to Siddha/Syda yoga. After Muktananda died, Gurumayi managed to take over and as part of the process pictures of Nitya and literature relating to their co-succession was destroyed.
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from the LGAT thread: A list of LGATs and their founders. Useful for timeline research However, it doesnt include information about cross pollination, such as Werner Erhard (EST) sponsoring Muktananda to come visit the US and then Muk utilizing modern American EST tech in his supposedly ancient Kashmiri Shavite 'Intensives'.
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Note from Corboy: Please, dont be too quick to label yourself with someting dire such as boderline personality disorder. Yes, that is a real diagnosis. However, there is a current trend to confuse bipolar affective disorder (a genetic medical psychiatric condition aggravated by stress, lack of sleep, with seasonal patterns) and borderline personality disorder which originates in disrupted
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Here is an earlier discussion of BK's own report that she had been treated for stage 2 basal cell carcinoma on her nose. Folks, this all sounds terrifying. Just hearing the word 'carcinoma' is enough to panic most people. But....if you have some medical background, you aint gonna panic. Instead you know to ask, 'What kind of carcinoma is it?' And then ask
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Dialogues with UG Krisnhamurti quoted by Luna Tarlo, mother of Andrew Cohen, from her memoir, The Mother of God. UG seems to have pioneered some kind of idiot savant method. (Context) Without consciously being aware of it, Luna Tarlo was becoming weary of the abuse she endured from her son, Andrew Cohen, after he became spontaneously enlightened in company of HWL Poonja. In February, abo
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Regarding the LaRouche group, back in the mid 1980s, they had a political goal which, thank God, never did get off the ground. They wanted to put people with AIDS in internment camps. Those were the terrible years of the pandemic, when there was no effective treatment and the President of the United States refused to say anything about AIDS in public. People with AIDS felt hung out to d
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Warning to those trying to recover: Unless your discussion venue is conscientously moderated, recruiters from BK land may try to slip material in to re-trigger you, or others may try to recruit you into new forms of bondage. We may seem a bunch of brutes here on RR.com, but we've been trolled many, many times. And, I confess I have become at times too quick to assume someone is not
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UG Krishnamurti played a role in assisting Luna Tarlo and some others to become free from Andrew Cohen. Luna tells of this in great detail in her memoir, The Mother of God. (1997, privately printed on Plover Press) UG also had a strange and hard to trace sort of awakening. Andrew Cohen had a seemingly spontaneous awakening, but only in conjunction with a dubious neo advaita type guru, H
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Think about her sitting on the toilet and taking a dump. And struggling to wipe all the dingleberries out.
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Folks, for a refresher, go google basal cell carcinoma and squamous cell carcinoma. Basal cell carcinoma is eminently treatable. It is slow growing, rarely if ever metastasizes. If left neglected, it will stay local and gnaw localized wounds, but this only happens to people who have zero access to medical care and no friends to tell them to go to the doctor. Years ago, I saw a photo in a derma
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And...if any jerk (male or female) dares suggest that I was 'lost in my story' when I went into an all caps fury describing that funeral, stay the hell away from me. I wont punch you in the jaw. I'll respond by bellowing that this New Age stuff is full of profit driven crap, and I only take advice from adults who go to clinical programs, do the supervised thousands of hours
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A manic break is serious business. For those who have not been through the process, go and read Madness by Marya Hornbacher for a first hand account of what it is like to be assigned to live in a body and mind affected by rapid cycling bipolar. Kate Jamison's books are also highly insightful. She was recently interviewed concerning the continuing appeal of Sylvia Plath, who died youn
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This from the HAI website, as of today, April 1st 2009 from 'What People Say' Quote“After having taken a number of HAI workshops myself or with my partner, I wanted to share my HAI experience with my family. I brought my 75 year old parents, a sister and a brother, a sister-in-law with my 15 year old nephew, and one of my best friends to a one-day Pathways to Intimacy with Sta
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