Information about this same group in Ireland--they go by a slightly different name. Several articles--read'em. Earlier articles about this group (known in the UK as School of Economic Science and in the US as School of Practical Philosophy)
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Interesting observations: Positive thinking actually preserves secretive power structures, whether political, pseudospiritual, or entreprenuerial, from scrutiny. Positive thinking is anti liberty. The American Revolution was started by grouches who were aware of the negative uses of power, not by positive thinkers. The checks and balances in the Constitution were written by people who sa
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Some insights from a person who was in an entirely different group-- Sahaja Marg But this persons observations, based on over a decade in Sahaja Marg may ring a few familar bells. Two articles:
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QuoteAnd never forget, when anyone from the NLP related fields are telling any type of "Story"...its not "true" like a normal person, its strategic, and they will say literally anything with no basis in fact, and have no remorse whatsoever in doing this. No need to learn that the hard way. Its the difference between playing a game of cards using a clean deck, vs using a m
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QuoteAlso Known as: Smoke Screen, Wild Goose Chase. Description of Red Herring A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from the argument and to another topic. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form: Topic A
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QuoteTrying to second-guess the perpetrators thinking is a bit of a red herring though and doesn't get you out of the manipulative game, it locks you further in. Describing NLP techniques that are described in publications and then pointing out how they've crossed over from use by ethical medical professionals into unregulated for profit usage, and in contexts where the public isnt ev
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One unspoken message is, we are not supposed to be afraid in an earthquake?? Wonder if if the Katie/Mitchells are so care free about earthquakes and so love them for what they are that they have chosen not to buy earthquake insurance, eh? A few thoughts on earthquakes. One, you'd better hope you have slippers by your bed. For case a window breaks and glass shatters and lands on t
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This is getting interesting...
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The thing to remember about about Manson and Hitler, is they were not ordinary people. They did not become infamous household names by playing sports or by providing valuable information about a particular sport. They were masters of persuasion. If Hitler and Manson had learned to talk in a cozy way about sports, it would not have been ordinary bar room comraderie. Long term, they wante
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Shakti, I think you're mixing names up. Cothsee is the one who is being dumped on.
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Its like using the glare of a flashlight to highlight one area--an area that does need examination--in blazing light while ones actual alliances and loyalties are plunged into a pall of darkness all the harder to recognize because one's eyes are dazzled by the glare of scrutiny focused elsewhere.
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Social Psychology Experimentation Leaking Through the Computer Screen We are in a new frontier, now that it has become easy and affordable to create and operate a blog. Whilst reading and commenting on various and sundry blogs, I have noticed that if a particular individual comments frequently on a particular blog, using an identifiable handle or especially if that person uses his or her f
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Additional Resources Anyone who is interested in Sufism should get and read a book by Professor Mark Sedgwick, entitled Against The Modern World, a study of a movement called 'traditionalism' Many forms of Sufism are propagated by people whose ideology is traditionalist and who filter a distorted form of Sufism through the traditionalist lens. Persons who are not already practici
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Indian Guru Research--Continuing Education Resource There is a reason why Indian export gurus keep coming here. Look at the conversion rates. (As in currency, not human beings) This website gives a handy table by which to see the conversion rate of one currency vs another. (including gold) As of today: 1.00 USD = 48.0004 INR US dollar= Indian Rupee and 1.00 EUR = 67
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However, if you go and read on the Anti Amma blog If you scroll down you will find a citation for a participant report by a person who visited an Amma event. www.feelgoodgirl.com That article can be found on another site, feelgoodgirl.com The author puts a psychic interpretation on what she observed and felt. But much of what she describes can be accounted for by findings fr
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This thread will continue over in the New Religions section. Some material has been added. if you go and read on the Anti Amma blog, you will find a citation for a participant report by a person who visited an Amma event. That article can be found on another site, feelgoodgirl.com The author who wrote the participant report put a psychic interpretation on what she observed and felt.
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Dear Cothsee, please feel free to post this on the ex-amma forum. And whatever I said... feel free to print it. Amma is benefitting from US democracy and its system of trustfully and generously giving tax exemption to spiritual projects. Those who DO pay their taxes are indirectly subsidizing her--and the pattern of violence and political patronage she exercises in India. Those who do g
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Concord, California is in Eastern Contra Costa County. That, friends, is one of the areas that has been especially hard hit by the subprime mortgage fiasco. Two years ago, a friend of mine who rides with his bicycle club in that area said he was horror stricken by the whopping number of foreclosure signs on properties all over that area. As if having an LGAT in the area is not already b
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Here is a URL to the earlier Amma thread. That URL will give you material from the Indian media about Amma's ties to the Hindu fundamentalist movement and its stink of violence. Any Westerner interested in an Indian guru needs to study the media coverage by the Indian press concerning their guru. And, these days, much of that coverage is readily available online, and in English.
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You Will Know that We Love Amma by Our Loove By Our Love by Our Loooov!!! Amma Ashramites and Their Neighborly Behavior on Green Avenue, Delhi--2007 Amma Peace Award and Goondagate (Goonda is Hindi for 'Thug') Some Pictures of Amma's Love Later follow up as one commentor put it: QuoteAt 8/18/2007 9:23 AM, Anonymous said... Whaddya wanna bet that
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(note the URLs for earlier articles published in this newspaper about other commerical 'export gurus' and 'paisa piety' Hinduism. ('Paisa' refers to coins of small denominations, similar to what the Greek Scriptures called the 'widows mite'--the small contributions made by the poor, but which, metaphorically refer to any amount of money, which extend
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Anyone thinking of getting involved with an Indian guru should investigate how that guru and his or her follower behave in India. All too often Westerners are given a sweetness love and light message, but in India, this same guru behaves like a warlord. The dewy eyed westerners will not be told that in India their guru purchases politicians by the lakh, and tellsgoondas (thugs) to whip cri
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Things to Make and Do: *(Security advisory--if anyone wants to purchase copies of these books, and has reason to be protective of personal privacy, arrange for a third party to buy one of the copies for you. And...pay only cash.) Go to the website www.bookfinder.com Run price searchers for BK's two earlier books, 'A Cry in the Desert' and 'Losing the Moon'.
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Lauren, it very much appears as though the group needed a scapegoat, and tag, you were it. A dysfunctional family or group that refuses to acknowledge its actual troubles will often project its fears and hang ups onto a designated scapegoat. Once you are tagged as the scapegoat, you fulfill a vital function for the fucked up group, and they NEED you to be the scapegoat. That means that not
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People can do what they like, but if one wishes to recover from a bad gnostic group, it can be well to take a breather and look at some re-assessments of Carl Gustav Jung and his social and cultural background. Jung is revered as a primary source for insights into the unconscious but he appears to have been greatly influenced by many German occultists, most of whose work is not well known toda
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The Consolation of Theosophy 11 by Frederick Crews Examines the occulist and theosophical roots of psychotherapy, most noteably Freud (includes discoveries about the suspect nature of the Anna O case) and Jungs hidden gnostic background. The article suggests ways the profession can be rescued and made to fit a responsible scientific-therapeutic model.
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It appears that Noll, a lapsed Catholic, has moved to a biblical protestant stance. Still if something gives someone the guts and staying power to do tough minded historical research and to look for papers and interviews that have NOT been published in the official collections of Jungs essays and longer works...some of the grit of a Martin Luther may well be needed to withstand the flack.
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There is an additional interview of Richard Noll by an ultra conservative Catholic newspaper, The Wanderer. The Wanderer tried hard to push for certain conclusions from Noll. Noll, a lapsed Catholic, did state that given the actual pagan foundation of Jungs work and Jungs gnostic definition of salvation, Jungian material would not slot well with Catholic doctrine, which is a valid point--just
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"That bothers me, as does the idea that myth and the emotional response to myth is more important to historical facts. To Jung, it didn't matter whether or not a story was true. What mattered was the effect on the listener, how it makes him or her feel." Quotations from the Beatrice interview QuoteElements of Jung's theories lie at the basis of much of contemporary "
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