Quote
shakti
His brother's name is "Raul"? Anyone know how that came about? Not very Japanese sounding. Small point, but interesting to me, at least.

sorry, that was sarcasm, related to how Ikeda loves Fidel Castro so much.
When Fidel "retired" he installed his brother Raoul Castro as President.

David Letterman also had his fake brother Raoul Letterman standing by in the wings.

So "Raoul" is code for brother/stooge of the "retired" dictator for life.

So there has to be a "Raoul" Ikeda in the wings. Just watch, Ikeda will "retire" and install some stooge son of his, but Ikeda will run SGI until its taken from his cold dead hands.

Then someone else will get their hands on the levers of those many many SGI billions.
Like how Scientology was taken over by David Miscavige.

So SGI will have its "Raoul Miscavige" and SGI could get far worse. Those SGI billions are not going anywhere in this lifetime and for many decades ahead. Even if SGI did nothing, every year they are going to get richer and richer. SGI is smart, they have few expenses, they don't have churches, or payrolls, or anything, its all distributed and the costs are covered by the members.
SGI is much smarter than Amway, which also made the Amway owners billionaires.

Oh oh I forgot...Oneness of Mobster and disciple, or the Mobster-disciple relationship. Gangsta disciples..warring Buddhist gangs. Suited wondermen of the Gakkai protecting....hmmm protecting....whom. Oh yeah I forgot..protecting the bubble of the Gotchakai from those pin needles of truth and objectivity. I have experienced a different type of eye opening ceremony here. No more beads of karma worry sweat that members sweat. I'm cool.

Wow I also just read this on the Rick Ross website which explains the attitude of the SGI towards its members and society at large:

"When democracy is put into practice by the unthinking masses, liberty will be misinterpreted as license; rights will be claimed while duties remain unfulfilled; and the loss of order will allow evil to become rampant"
Complete Works of Daisku Ikeda page 176

There ya go.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/19/2009 04:02AM by sushigrl.

and there are no worries for anyone rejecting SGI, about having some bad thing happen to them.
That is SGI propaganda brainwashing and fear-mongering to try and SCARE people into staying.
Its bullshit, its more SGI lies.

Ikeda doesn't even chant, no way. He wouldn't waste his time. Of course one has to speculate, but Ikeda would chant about as much as Rupert Murdoch. Ikeda would just tell himself that he doesn't need to chant, as he is Buddha II...he thinks others should chant to him.

Also, many SGI members, who are just loyal bottom rung SGI folks, with good intentions, can get sick and/or die just like anyone else.
Anyone in SGI could think of many local cases where a decent loyal local SGI person got some type of cancer, and had everyone chanting for them, and they still died.

You see, all SGI would have to do is allow an independent REAL university to do a RANDOM health study of SGI people to see their disease/death rates.
They REFUSE to do it, just like Christian Science.
Why?
Because they know from internal studies that their members die the same rate as the population, and sometimes even WORSE as they don't seek timely medical care.

If anything, quitting SGI is one of the best things a person can do for their health and life.

That doesn't mean they have to quit being a real Buddhist, or doing their own meditation or what have you. Just be very cautious not to jump from one cult to another sect! Sadly, many folks do that...sometimes 10x before they realize these "groups" might not be the answer.

But no worries, quitting SGI is not going to make a person sick, or have bad things happen to them. It will NOT affect one's health there is NO EVIDENCE it could.

If anything, it can make someone's life much better, as they can find more healthy things to do other than getting screwed around by the SGI Corp 24/7.

Has anyone here read the article about The Last Will and Testament of Tsugio Ishida ? If you do a google search, it comes up. It's really a very telling and interesting article from Culthelp. Tsugio Ishida remonstrated with Prez Ikeda and brought to light some very amazing facts. This was a contemporary of Ikeda's who was side by side with Prez Ikeda and Toda.

This man left the Soka Gakkai because it was corrupt and not fulfilling its original mission. Interesting, neh.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/19/2009 04:28AM by sushigrl.

Here a link to that article, Daisaku Ikeda is basically a highly organized intelligent criminal.

The Last Will and Testament of Tsugio Ishida
[www.culthelp.info]
THE LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT OF TSUGIO ISHIDA IS A 700 PAGE REMONSTRATION TO DAISAKU IKEDA
Shukan Shincho, 9/22/94


The article page on Soka Gakkai.
[www.culteducation.com]

If people come across any new articles, then please link to them

That shows what Ikeda thinks of the public...UNTHINKING MASSES.
That quote below from Ikeda sounds like it was taken from Mussolini.

"in fact sensei,with his personal worship, looks like Mussolini" [kwd100projectsforpeace.org]

Ikeda wants the public to be an unthinking mass, that is how he programs them, so Ikeda can do the thinking.
Thank goodness that Daisku Ikeda's goal to become the President of Japan failed so miserably, so Ikeda can only be the self-appointed President For Life of SGI.

Quote
sushigrl
Wow I also just read this on the Rick Ross website which explains the attitude of the SGI towards its members and society at large:

"When democracy is put into practice by the unthinking masses, liberty will be misinterpreted as license; rights will be claimed while duties remain unfulfilled; and the loss of order will allow evil to become rampant"
Complete Works of Daisku Ikeda page 176

There ya go.

This is another great link found in an earlier post on this forum...[www.youtube.com], and [www.fraughtwithperil.com]. I find it wonderful that this person is posting like this. I have not read this post before. I hope I am not wrong to bring the link here.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/19/2009 05:50AM by sushigrl.

Quote
The Anticult
my goodness, look at the SGI propaganda about Polly Toynbee. [www.gakkaionline.net]
In reality, its very easy for a con-artist like Ikeda to fool and dupe an intellectual, its very simple.

-----------Beginning of Quote, www.gakkaionline.net---------------------------------------------------------

Nichiren Shoshu loves to disparage President Ikeda’s 1972 meeting with Arnold Toynbee. This was his first meeting with a person of great international prominence, and resulted in an account of their dialogues entitled Choose Life.

It was Toynbee who suggested to President Ikeda that he engage in dialogues with other world leaders and thinkers, even naming a few he might begin with. So it is very important to Nichiren Shoshu the discredit their dialogue in any way they can. Enter Polly Toynbee, the great historian’s granddaughter.
Her basic premise — and the basic premise of most of what Nichiren Shoshu says about the Toynbee-Ikeda dialogues — is that the SGI took advantage of Toynbee to enhance President Ikeda’s status as a world figure. How was the SGI able to exploit one of the world’s greatest thinkers? His granddaughter says — he had become senile and didn’t know what was happening!

Polly Toynbee, it would seem, was put off by her own subsequent contact with the SGI. It appears, though, that this has more to do with her own rather paternalistic and aristocratic worldview. For instance, she is surprised and offended that Japanese bow to each other in greeting and parting. Anyone who would have taken five seconds to learn anything about Japanese culture would have known that this is as customary in Japan as shaking hands is in the West; but Ms. Toynbee did not take those five seconds. She also begins her account of her relationship with President Ikeda by insulting his personal appearance.
-----------------------End of quote---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Classic SGI! If someone criticizes or disagrees with SGI -- attack! Even if SGI has to make things up!

--First, as Anticult says, con artists can manipulate even smart people.

--Does Jim Celer REALLY think he knows more about Arnold Toynbee's mental state and health than members of Toynbee's own family did? What arrogance on Celer's part!

--This article also quotes some good reviews -- or seemingly good reviews that the book received. The trouble with that, is only a few words or sentences from the reviews were published -- showing the whole review might have given an entirely different impression.

--We also know that Ikeda has used ghostwriters -- and that he can afford the best, paying them well for their writing skills, knowledge, and silence.

--Where did Polly Toynbee say that she was shocked that the Japanese bow to eachother? She commented on rows of Japanese girls in white bowing to Ikeda's entourage -- that's not exactly the same thing.

--Ms. Toynbee has an "aristocratic" and paternalistic worldview"? What the hell does that even mean?

--And she insulted Ikeda's physical appearance? Ooh, the nerve of the woman! Maybe that's what it means to have an aristocratic and paternalistic worldview -- she didn't fall under Ikeda's spell, and she wouldn't kiss his butt!

We should all strive for an aristocratic and paternalistic worldview!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/19/2009 10:25AM by tsukimoto.

Dear Anticult and Sushi:

First Sushi: That quote sums up Ikeda's thinking. It might just have well come from Mein Kampf or Mussolini's writings.

Anticult: I just got off the phone with a former salaried leader of the Soka Gakkai who lived in Japan for many years beginning in the mid eighties. He speaks, reads, and writes Japanese and has been an independent practitioner for more than 10 years while his wife became a Nichiren Shoshu member. He started out receiving what we could term strict Soka Gakkai training, doing Sokahon (traffic control division). After gaining the trust of the Japanese Sokahan leaders, they took him down to the basement of the SGI headquarters building and showed him a wooden Gohonzon inscribed down the middle, Namu Myoho renge kyo Daisaku Ikeda. He confirms that he never saw or heard Ikeda chant on his own when guarding his residence or work area and there was a rumor that Ikeda's wife was worried about him and before the split she sought guidance from a priest about his habit of neither chanting Namu Myoho renge kyo nor reciting the Lotus Sutra. The following audios demonstrates the difference between Ikeda's chanting the Daimoku [Namu Myoho renge kyo] with members and the chanting of a real practitioner of the Lotus Sutra:

[www.youtube.com]

Compare to beautiful Daimoku chanting:

[www.youtube.com]