Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Date: January 06, 2014 11:46AM
Invisible wrote:
“I believe those messages John brought helped lay the foundation of the churches thinking so that all were taught to respect and revere God in the choices of God among us, in serving God with one another, as a body of believers in Christ.”
“The stories John expounded on, out of the O.T. were about the choices of God standing.”
“So you can understand how TLWF has also come to believe that they should obey their leaders in all things.”
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It’s so true; all the programming----enough to put any ‘Twilight Zone Episode’ to shame. It takes years of study, re-thinking and the use of “outside sources” to break the spell; and what a strong spell it is!!
Somewhere in Pauline theology it says, “Called as a slave-----go ahead and get free if the opportunity arises and you so desire.” The idea set forth is: “freedom is desirable for those who want it.”
Nehemiah (with Ezra the scribe) had the charge from the Persian Emperor Artaxerxes to restore Israel after its destruction and they chose to do it by gathering together all the various writings from the tribes and putting together a coherent book (The Old Testament); the ‘glue’ whereby they could rally “all” the people. Of course submission, obedience and unifying themes had to be emphasized to accomplish their charge, especially in the “small” dog eat dog world of that time. Other books are mentioned in the O. T. but are excluded for some reason; perhaps they had no political value.
During Pauline times, the Roman Empire had control of a vast area, providing the umbrella for the early church to operate. The church didn’t need its own ‘submissive private army’ to protect itself.
Today, our world is a dot in an infinitely large universe, and our universe is one of an infinite number of universes. Holding to extreme submission, obedience and thought/action servitude to a privately owned church is to ‘throw to the wind’ all rationality when considering all the possibilities that exist for us in ‘infinite existence’.
God, however defined, is big, very big. There is enough room for each of us to operate and dream as we please. I was doing just fine in the “Walk” until the shepherd chose to deny me and others any space at all. Ridiculous!
The idea of a rebellious spirit (oh, so evil, wrong, contaminating and scary), has been and is used by every controlling human to ever come along. It’s so lame and bogus. If the God of infinite existence is threatened by such a puny, minor thing, He doesn’t deserve His position.
Have you noticed how scary it is to post anything contrary to “Walk” teaching? My bet is that there are subconscious levels yet to be rooted out and liberated. One of the reasons I like to use the more crazy terms is simply to shock my own conditioning.
(Un-churched and still getting free from the restrictions of bibliolatry)