> Dissent brings retribution, at least from my
> experience. The uncomfortable truth is that anyone
> who considered themselves a ministry during the
> reign of G & M & R (Gary, Marilyn, Rick) were only
> kidding themselves. They were merely
> figureheads...having the appearance of having a
> say in matters, but actually inconsequential. The
> way to test this premise,of course, was to express
> an opinion contrary to the dogma of these leaders,
> and see what becomes of your so-called ministry.
> Walk & TLWF history is littered with so-called
> 'important' ministries being shunned and
> eventually pressured out of the fellowship for
> being at odds with those at the top of the
> authority chain. The 'upward flow' is what it's
> been all about.
> Unfortunately, it was always this way. As you
> said, changed, "Walk & TLWF history is littered
> with so-called 'important' ministries being
> shunned and eventually pressured out of the
> fellowship for being at odds with those at the top
> of the authority chain." JRS did this if anyone
> tried to discuss things they saw as unscriptural,
> or disagreed with him. They bought themselves a
> one-way ticket to shunning and nephilim status.
> And as we all know, apostles are not required to
> listen to nephilim.
I know that its not a popular topic but there are two sides to everything.
While G & M where by all accounts abusive, dont we have to ask ourselves why some strove much harder than others to be included. By included I mean be a part of the organization at a level high enough to be abused by G & M directly. I know a lot of cult members and not all of them had the drive and desire to elevate themselves in the "ministry." I guess what I am trying to say in a kind and sensitive way is that in my mind trying to elevate yourself above the other cult members and join the leadership ranks of a cult, comes at a price. The leaders I knew personally were certainly intelligent and perceptive enough to have known this. The pioneers take the arrows right? If you put yourself out front then you become a target. All that being said, if anyone was drafted or forced to participate then thats different. Just wondering why there seems to be so much lamenting of the good people in leadership that were abused and less focus on the congregation at large whom were ALL abused.