Question for the curious - what does the "advanced course" involve? I know pretty much what the basic Landmark Forum is. Many of the reported breakdowns I've read about online were after the advanced course - is it more confrontational, intense, or what? I know Landmark took out the more confrontational aspects of the old est training but did they put that in the advanced course instead?
Also, I note with some amusement that the Church of $cientology offers an "est repair rundown" that claims to undo any damage caused by est/The Forum/Landmark. Not that I'd be inclined to take anything offered by $cientology seriously, but does anyone know exactly what this involves? Going from Landmark to $cientology sounds like an "out of the frying pan into the fire" thing to me though.
In the advanced course the main thing is to prove that nothing real exists. You come down to that what people think is real is actually only agreements between people. If 2 people agree that a chair is a chair it becomes real for those 2 persons. But it does not really exist but these 2 people think it does.
You get a lot of training in enrollment - if I remember correctly now you get some salestraining that is more specialized than what you got during the forum when it was all a matter of just getting people to the graduation.
You write down your whole life story with all your failings (mostly) then you read that story to another person until you start to see it is just a story that you have made up. If something bad happened to you in your childhood you have trapped yourself in your interpretations around that incident. You have built your self image around that story - which of course is not real at all. It has been agreement with yourself. So you in a sence become CLEAR as in scientology. Then of course you have to take more courses to become even CLEARER - just as in Scientology.
People go nuts around these "revelations" - some go into psychosis - most people become very high and feel good.
Making people high and feeling good is a standard way for cults to make people think that what they are experiencing is good for them. Actually this high feeling is not very good for you. You become a junkie looking for getting high again. I redid the forum course a few times to try to get high again. It didn't happen.
The downside of being high is of course depression. I think this is what happened to my friend that ended up killing himself.
I did like the advanced course and enrolled my brother on the graduation night. I was so high and did some "powerful" sharing on stage and my brother didn't hesitate one moment to enroll.
Landmark leaders saw me doing that and the told me I had leadership capabilities and enrolled me into the first step up the ladder towards becoming a top dog leader in landmark. The course was the IFLP - introduction to the forum leader program.
p-d off but ok - informing the public about the evil deeds of landmark education
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/20/2008 01:29PM by nettie.