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The Anticult
And of course that Landmark Dis-Education legal letter was simply an attempt at initimidation and threat.
The video and transcript are still up.
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The "copyright arguments" put forward by Landmark were false and baseless, they were a fraud.
It seems that those who work for freedom of speech have somewhat figured out how to defeat groups like Landmark by calling their bluff, and moving toward bringing the entire Landmark corporation into the courts. When all of their ugly and dirty secrets come out in the court process, then Landmark would be destroyed. Landmark and Werner Erhard know this, so they clearly have to keep Landmark from facing a full legal process in front of a judge.
Perhaps someday soon, there might be class-action lawsuits brought against these types of groups in the US, and that could put many of them out of the game, or force them to stop harming people so blatantly.
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The Shadow
Hi elena,
I disagree that it is only the "dimwits" who fall into the LGAT trap. My friend is far from being a dimwit. But she was introduced by someone she loved and trusted at a time when she was particularly vulnerable. I had been trying to persuade her to get some help for minor depression, but she would not take my advice to consider a short course of chemical anti-depressants or some counselling. Her dad paid for her first course; she agreed to take it because her relationship with him was in a shambles, she did not like his new wife, and she was desparate to make things right with him. (she is younger than 30). His new wife (someone he has only known for about 6 months, is a long-time Landmark/EST gruaduate).
I can just see her at the introductory course. sitting between him and her in a crowded room, being told all the things she wants/needs to hear. Thinking that this will fix what is wrong between her and her Dad.
Well, it has not fixed anything. The only thing it has done is deplete her bank account and worn me out physically and emotionally as I worry about what is going to happen to her.
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vlinden
These are some good posts by Elena so I'm bringing this older thread up again.
This is precisely the reason I lost total respect for my ex and left him over Landmark. If he had been sucked in unwittingly, during the pre-Internet age, that would be one thing. But I was SCREAMING from the sidelines at him as he traipsed along, ignoring me in his callow self-absorbed psychological death-wish, batting away the reams of evidence against Landmark that I tried to hand him . . . there is no excuse for this. None.
Even now he won't do his own homework but so graciously offers that I can keep taking time and energy out of my life to "send him some links" about Landmark and he might be willing to listen as long as I'm not "furious."
Oh . . . fuck that.
I am furious. And disgusted.
Before I ended it with him two days ago -- truly and totally because I am just stomach-twisting ill inside from all this pathetic nonsense -- I sent him many threads about LGAT casualties. The young man who "snapped" in Crestone, CO and disappeared, the woman who jumped out of a window in Australia, Charla Mack being decapitated by her obviously "out of integrity" husband and Landmark leader, Darren Mack. I sent him some threads from Sonnie_Dee writing about the abuses that go on behind the scenes at Landmark.
What do you want to bet he doesn't read this stuff? And if he does, he goes to the Advanced Course anyway?
Can anyone say PA_FUCKING_THETIC????
Man, I've cursed more on this board than I did in junior high. Sorry, folks, but what can I say. I'm pissed.
He told me, in defense of Landmark, that from his perspective the whole thing is about "inspiring people to greatness." I nearly lost my lunch on that one.
Oh . . woe is me. Inspiring people to greatness.
Elena, if you're around, help me out here. Can you help me articulate why these words have a sickening effect on normal humans?