Yes, it appears that Juli Kamin who as you say above is founder and chairman of Cherish our Children , where these execs Ellyn Jones and Karl Lehenbauer serve on the board (and they own the [
www.scooponlandmarkforum.com] pro-Landmark site) is indeed somehow related to Mark Kamin , former spokesman for Landmark Education , and currently founder of " Mark Kamin and Associates ", as discussed in the thread
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board.culteducation.com]
More information is available at
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reunite.myfamily.com]
Seems like even in other parts of their lives, after certain individuals have "left" Landmark Education , they still feel a need to promote it, or speak using its jargon language or as Dr. Robert Lifton likes to say, "loaded language".
As a side-note, I don't know if you have noticed, but Mark Kamin is now paying Google for his new blog to come up on Google searches. The blog is purportedly a "response to the lies on culteducation.com", in which he is probably attempting to refute things from the above discussion thread, which he may (no doubt similar to Landmark Education) feel is written by Rick Ross himself and not actually many different independent writers.
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markkamin.wordpress.com]
Interestingly enough, similar to his prior parent company, most of Mark Kamin's defense is actually not a defense at all, but instead an ad-hominem attack on Rick Ross. He spends most of the post on the blog going on about Rick Ross' prior history, and doesn't actually attempt to refute most of the things said about him, he makes the claim that Rick Ross attempted to "target me" as if to say that Rick Ross is behind the posts. He also cites the same old quote from Dr. Raymond Fowler that is used in all of the Schreiber Cease and Desist letters.