midonov123, [i:1178c5137e]none[/i:1178c5137e] of my posts to this thread have compared the relative merits of LGAT's versus taking psychiatric drugs.
you seem prone, though, to inconsistency. on the one hand, you lament scientific ignorance, on the other, you don't seem troubled by the fact that, while clnical trials have demonstrated dangers connected with antidepressants, that they remain on the market. I can think of a number of reasons for this, by the way. one, the media in the US have ignored the story. two, the power of the pharmaceutical companies. three, the natural reluctance of people to give up a seeming fix, even if the fix doesn't work.
I also, BTW, turned up an article from the [i:1178c5137e]Psychiatric Times[/i:1178c5137e] entitled "Antidepressants Versus Placebos: Meaningful Advantages are Lacking"
Non ethical behavior in research by pharmaceutical companies is an interesting topic, but this thread was about "suicide and Landmark". I think we are getting off track. All I meant is that comparing the risks for suicide due to improper medication is not to be compared with the suicide risks from participating to LGATs.
BTW, the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 2005 was given to B.J. Marshall and J.R. Warren for their discovery of a bacteria that causes peptic ulcers. They were honored for their
“tenacity and a prepared mind [to challenge] prevailing dogmas”.
"At the time (1982) they were publicly ridiculed by the scientific community for their theory,
Another problem was the drug industry—anti-ulcer medications (that relieved the symptoms not the ulcer itself) were very lucrative, and the pharmaceutical companies did not want to lose that income." [www.sciscoop.com
All this is very interesting, and surely the medical world and pharmaceutical world must clear their own act, but this is taking place through peer reviewing and it is taking place right now as we speak.
No such debate exists that will regulate LGATs and LGATs will continue their unethical behavior unpunished. I'm not prone to inconsistencies, it's only that writing a short text on such a complex issue is limited.
Can't we try to elucidate the "suicidal rate" due to LGATs on this thread instead of putting to trial conventional psychiatry? Drugs, FDA and the pharmaceutical industry is a completely different topic. This is what I mean when I say that no comparison can be made. We are talking about two completely different topics, and the bad things that are going on in one area is no excuse for the unethical and risky business of LGATs.
I could add that the Nobel Prize in Medicine 2005 (about peptic ulcers being caused by a bacteria) coincides with the apperance of Tom Cruise on national TV (Matt Lauer show) where he claimed that "psychiatry is a pseudo-science"!!!
Curiously enough, Scientology has always claimed that "peptic ulcers" can be cured by their "auditing" techniques, as if "bacterias" can be eradicated by the sheer application of will !!! This is what I call an inconsistency!