...after seeing that one guy become mentally broken/possibly suicidal...
Witness, you have no way of knowing that man's state of mind. Depending on how much of the weekend you went through, you learned about judgement vs data - this is judgement.
IMHO, I admit that if he had "heard" of the situation, it would be "judgment". The fact that he was there, and saw what was happening with his own eyes, he 1. Had seen what upset this man 2. Saw with his own eyes how the man reacted 3. Was able to personally witness the mans physical reactions 4. Saw how long it took to calm the man down 5. Was going through a weekend of sharing about yourselves with others and therefore probably knew a few things about this man, and so.... he had data, he saw, heard, smelled, touched, spoke to and made an informed decision about what took place. Which is soooo different from the basic concept of judgment.
twilla1 What did you learn about judgement? I ask this because your reply definitely sounds like one to me.
...after the forced group homoeroticism...
the dictionary definition of homoeroticism is to be sexually aroused by an individual of the same sex, though not necessarily act upon this feeling. Again, unless you yourself were aroused by the naked men, or personally witnessed another man being aroused by it, I would ask that you reconsider your use of that term.
Actually, The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.
NOUN: A homoerotic quality or theme.
And another dictionary
homosexual eroticism: eroticism that is focused on or inspired by people of the same sex
What dictionary are you looking in Twilla1? From what I can find, and I did do an internet search, homoeroticism means nothing that you stated. I as well typed in your definition and the closest thing I could find to your definition was homosexual, NOT homoeroticism.
The morons who say that is "brainwashing" obviously have no idea what MKP is about. The heart is what guides us in relationships, makes us better husbands and fathers and lovers, and allows us to open ourselves to experiencing life to the fullest. This is not a bad thing! However, to people who are "in their heads" it is foreign.
This is a basic "judgment" statement and is disrespectful and is: PARANOID - WE ARE BEING PERSECUTED Any time you say anything negative about the group, whether justified or no, it is regarded as "persecution". Any criticism of the individual is also seen as persecution only because they are the "enlightened" one - not because they, as an individual, have done the wrong thing. However, at the same time they will feel free to criticise whatever you believe, say and do because they are "the only ones who are right".
We do know what mkp is about, you just don't want to admit that FACT. And yeah, I know I have said the above before about paranoid. It is so on target that I love saying it. AND if you were to have ever told my husband pre mkp that I was "in my head" and not my emotions, he would have spent the next ten years laughing at you. I am probably one of the most "not in my head" persons you will ever have the pleasure of having discussions with.
:wink: You see also, I have, gone with my heart, gut feelings, emotions about mkp, and those are the things that made me start researching mkp. If I had been "stuck with my head", I would have just read the mkp site, and gone, oh, they are wonderful, and then done nothing else whatever my post mkp experience. Though when/if I post my experience, any fool would have seen, EVEN WITH THEIR HEAD, the damage mkp causes.