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Re: Cryonics, Cult Movement or Ligit Science???
Posted by: Sparky ()
Date: September 14, 2010 03:39AM

Thanks, The Anticult. This last one is Shannon Blevins' own webpage. I PMed' Shannon Blevins and he/she will be posting openly on this forum shortly.

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Jim Yount is chief operating officer of the American Cryonics Society"
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 14, 2010 03:46AM

[www.americancryonics.org]
"Jim Yount is chief operating officer of the American Cryonics Society, has been on the board of governors for more than 20 years, and served as its president in 1994-96.

Previously, Yount established Long Life Insurance Agency and helped pioneer the use of insurance to fund cryonic suspension. Yount is also associate editor of The Immortalist magazine, a cryonics publication."

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Re: Jim Yount is chief operating officer of the American Cryonics Soci
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 14, 2010 04:12AM

There were earlier posts in this thread with the username CryoGirl [forum.culteducation.com] who was trying to promote a BLIND "irrevocable trust".
That is a death contract you can never get out of, and you don't know whats in it! Beyond madness.

Also, some cryonics companies are using sex in their internet viral marketing to attract attention.

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Re: Cryonics, Cult Movement or Ligit Science???
Posted by: Sparky ()
Date: September 14, 2010 05:01AM

The Anticult, maybe it is once again time to re-post the photograph of Ted Williams wearing the cat food "hat".

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Re: Cryonics, Cult Movement or Ligit Science???
Posted by: richiekgb ()
Date: September 14, 2010 09:20AM

I also been speaking with "shannon" who contacted me via my silly website

Really hope he is going to post his full story because here is someone who appears to have seen the ugly side of these cryonics companies and the "guru's" that run them.

Seems like a lot of these guys are pretty dirty

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Re: Cryonics, Cult Movement or Ligit Science???
Posted by: Sparky ()
Date: September 14, 2010 10:57AM

I hope Shannon Blevins will soon be able to tell his feelings/thoughts more openly on this thread. So much of what he told me, privately, I promised not to relay and suggested he do so himself.

None of us should have their anonyminity jeopardized without our say-so.

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Re: Cryonics, Cult Movement or Ligit Science???
Posted by: richiekgb ()
Date: September 14, 2010 09:52PM

Mothermelter Saul Kent is also on his way to the UK Did Saul Kent kill his own mother in the name of cryonics? Check this link at about 5.50 he almost admits it: [www.youtube.com]

The event (from Cryonics UK)

"Cryonics UK European Exposition
with Saul Kent + Catherine Baldwin
Thursday, September 23, 2010 • 12:00pm - 6:00pm, Sheffield • function room at the Sheffield Park Hotel


Cryonics UK exposition / European workshop with some very noteworthy guests from America who wish to meet as many cryonicists (especially Europeans) as possible at this event.

Catherine Baldwin (General Manager, Suspended Animation, Inc.) and Saul Kent (CEO, Suspended Animation, Inc.; Director, Alcor; Co-Founder, Cryonics Society of New York; Co-Founder, Life Extension Foundation; Co-Founder and Director, 21st Century Medicine; Co-Founder and Director, BioMarker Pharmaceuticals; Co-Founder, Timeship Project) will be in attendance, and are looking forward to meeting as many European cryonicists as possible while here.

On this day, we will mostly not be at our usual location, our HQ, but nearby in a hired function room at the Sheffield Park Hotel, a pleasant four star venue around the corner from our HQ. The day will however also include a brief tour of our HQ.

The purpose of the event is severalfold; to allow European cryonicists to meet and ask questions of Saul and Catherine, and also to allow Saul and Catherine to get to know a little better what we do over here and how we do it.

To this end, there will be open discussion time, some short structured presentations (Cryonics UK training, Cryonics in Europe, etc), a tour of our clinic and ambulance, and some social element too.

Attendance is free of charge, as the costs of the event (venue and catering) will be paid by kind sponsorship from Suspended Animation Inc.

[...]

[Moderator's note: The rules specifically prohibit posting contact information on this message board.]



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SCAM ALERT: Cryonics UK European Exposition, September 23, 2010
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 15, 2010 02:08AM

The American cryonics salesmen are using the same advanced sales techniques as the Large Group Awareness Training (LGAT) seminars. Now they are taking it to the UK, looking for fresh hunting grounds.
[www.skepdic.com]
Also search Google for the word:
LGAT

They are booking hotel ballrooms and offering a "free introduction".
All that means is they want to get the FISH into the NET.

Here is a psychic prediction. At this event, they will find the cryonics salespeople at the back of the room with complex cryonics contracts they are going to try to get people to sign ON THE SPOT.

They are now using the sophisticated techniques of the LGAT seminar, to draw people in, and then slowly persuade and indoctrinate them, and get them to sign complex contracts, and then upsell them to more "services".
They have dozens of sales techniques, from soft to hard.
The soft sell, might get people to commit to $30 a month, or sign a "small" insurance contract.
The hard sell, if they find a big FISH, will be to push the "irrevocable trust" that people can't get out of.

So the cryonics salespeople hook the FISH with a little bait, and then real them in. Hook them with a few bucks a month, then slowly upsell them. If they are juicy fish, they push for Power of Attorney and to take over their entire Estate, and get them to hand over their entire Estate to the cryonics company in a laughable "trust".

Yes, you can "trust" that once you are dead dead dead, and they have your former Estates assets, you can trust that its game over. They can do anything they want with your former money, as you a legally dead, and you gave them all your (former) money.
They can buy hot-tubs with your money, and take "cryonics business trips" to tropical "tourist" sites overseas.
They can hire their buddies to do "research" at 15x market value.
Heck, they could probably buy hot-tubs, and then write them off as "the effects of prolonged hot-water on human skin experiments". Or the "effects of large amounts of alcohol in tropical locations used in the human body experiments".

Of course 99% of people know this, and see the scam.
But there are a few "suckers" out there, that every LGAT sales system hunts for.

The "financial" aspects of the "cryonics" companies, are simply another in a long long line of scams to liberate people from their money.

Now they are trying it in the UK, where they want people's money, for what? So they can (at best) ship a decaying corpse overseas, after weeks or months, if ever?

Its amazing that those who are blinded by dreams of immortality, cannot see the brazen common cryonics scam being done right out in the open.



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Re: SCAM ALERT: Cryonics UK
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 15, 2010 02:26AM

As well, the outrageously bad (and possibly illegal) behavior of some of the "Gurus" running the cryonics scams might seem shocking to cryonics believers.
But to those who study these types of fairly sophisticated scams, that is very common behavior, right down to the depravity and personal exploitations and sex scandals.
Its never just a simple financial scam, the exploitation goes across many areas, including personal.



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Re: Cryonics, Cult Movement or Ligit Science???
Posted by: richiekgb ()
Date: September 15, 2010 03:01AM

apologies for the contact info post

I or a freind might go along and see if your "psychic prediction" is correct - might be interesting to see if what we suspect is true...

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