"No one was ever told when and how to break off relationships or to get married - certainly not by Alex. Sharon did often suggest these sorts of things. Some students who had been there many years took her suggestions. Some students who had been there many years did not. The same with newer students."
When I was in the group these were often not "take it or leave it" suggestions.
At least twice in my experience, Horn told women that they had two weeks to find and marry a man or leave the "school".
Gans not only suggested these things, but when I was in the group('77-'79) a short time before you, she demanded that at least one couple in the "younger student" group get married or leave the "school". (admittedly unusual for the 'younger student" group-- but it happened, and I witnessed it).
In the "older student" group a huge percentage of "students" were in arranged marriages by Gans- people you and I both knew-- whether it was "get married or leave" I don't know, but judging from my experience it's possible it was her way or the highway--and a lot of those couples were absolutely miserable. Between Gans' cute philosophy ("hate n' mate") and Horn's "If a woman gets in the way of your evolution, kick her in the teeth and move on" (love that "kick her in the teeth"-- Horn's psychopathy and misogyny always added that extra oomph to his teachings) they probably created enough unhappy families to populate San Francisco.
According to this website: The "Alex Horn" Pages
Alex Horn passed away September 30, 2007.
I am wondering if anyone knows if this is true.
"There is no way this winter is ever going to end as long as that groundhog keeps seeing his shadow.
I don't see any way out of it.
He's got to be stopped.
And I have to stop him."
lol. count dracula is dead and gone forever and now one of his many renfields decides to weigh in with some faux-clever recurrence claptrap reference. try living in the real world before you are dead and gone forever too. you're truly creepy.
for your information he had convinced himself years ago he wasn't coming back. thankfully this is one of the few truths he ever uttered. hope that helps!
Hopefully, you will get some good from this site.
My experiences were not the same as others apparently were.
And, people do indeed change. As far as I know, Bob would not deign to speak or communicate with me nowadays. Or, at least he has not replied to anything I might have sent his way since around 1986. So, I suspect he is heavily into whatever culty thing that they are doing now.
That doesn't change my experiences or the useful things that I learned and have carried with me.
If it would be useful in your getting over the whole thing, it would massage my curiosity if you wanted to tell me what the hell they are up to nowadays.
If not, don't.
I wish you well.
wasthere222 reply to Moishe3rd:
No, it wouldn't be useful to me to tell you what they are up to these days, and from the sound of it, it wouldn't be useful to you, either.
If you haven't been involved since 1986, haven't gotten any replies from Robert, aren't interested in re-joining, and aren't trying to help those who have gotten out, then leave it all behind you and leave others alone.
You are only selfishly feeding your curiosity and messing with people who need real compassion and help.