I posted a longer answer some hours ago and it doesn´t show up.
I don´t know why, but my posts so far showed up with a few minutes delay, I don´t know why and I don´t know, if my last post got lost, deleted or has just a longer delay than the post before, but I try now to write it again.
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This is why he makes ‘politically incorrect’ statements at his lectures. It’s so he can get rid of the students who don’t agree with him right at the start.
is it really u, who thinks this ?
someone "who didn´t accept their programming" ?
repeating word by word official diamondway statements about this issue ?
I see it like that :
that way they
don´t get students, who really agree with such stuff, they get students, who r attracted by not having to think for themselfs anymore and who r able to shut up in case they still think for themselfs or don´t agree.
if I would teach, this would be the last kind of ppl I would want as students, but each to his own.
I cannot agree with any statement, that only the ppl r staying, who agree, I´ve seen often enough how he freaks and puts ppl very down, when they question this stuff about islam, and there was never ever much silent agreement to feel from the crowd, mostly they seem to feel a bit embarressed in my eyes and have clearly learned well how to shit up and ignore this a bit ugly way.
as they also have all learned well from the crowd to ignore the karmapa issue.
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I don't need to be re-programmed. I didn't accept their programming in the first place.
try this :
look at other ex-cult-members, for example ex-osho-ppl, ex-sientology, ex-hare-krishna, ex-jehovas-witnesses, whatever, choose something very very unattractive or weird in ur eyes, something very far from ur own stuff.
look at someone, who claims not to have gotten programmed, someone who believes, that he is really out of his former cult now.
look at all the weird attitudes and absurd believes this person still carries with him, it´s a real freakshow usually.
there r so many things we just get used to over long times and over time start to believe that they r ours or real or true.
there is no need to get consciously "programmed" by anyone, it´s enough to be in contact with such things over a longer time.
this slowly getting used to such things is exactly what is called "programming".
it´s so damn easy to see this so clearly at others and so very very difficult to see and understand it when it comes to ones own stuff.
this looking at and understanding ur own stuff is the only way of "deprogramming", others can tell u thousands of things, as long as there is no real interest in looking honestly at urself, u will forever stay in this somehow really strange state of believing to be "out" but actually still being completly "in".
when I look at u still quoting even word by word the weirdest official diamondway stuff, man, either u r a weird official acting here for whatever reasons or u really need to wake up a bit more and start to look at urself a bit.
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If you want to discuss the Karmapa issue I’m happy to discuss it with you.
I have no need for this anymore, for me that´s just a bit sad memory of something I can neither understand nor accept nor deal with in any way and it´s something, that very probably spoilt any interest in any closer contact with tibetans and vajrayana forever.