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Re: A Sufi Cult
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: August 15, 2017 11:00AM



I used to be afraid of having my smug little syda fantasy life destroyed.

I heard about things I refused to investigate. I hid behind the lie that my
own inner experiences validated and exonerated syda and its gurus. What was
I hiding from? What were we all hiding from when we put on our blinders
along with our rudraksha beads?

I think I was hiding from my vulnerability. Syda seemed to offer me a path
to invulnerability, to a fantastic and infantile vision of safety. Having
rejected syda, I find myself returning to personhood, becoming a regular
person again. Does this seem familiar?

This is how I see it: We have descended from the high mountains of
discipleship and supreme attainment, and where have we arrived? We have
arrived at our brokenness, our human frailty, our flawed natures, our
weakness. We have arrived at our vulnerability, the same vulnerability which
once led us blindly into betrayal and humiliation. But that was because we
were afraid of our vulnerability and we were running away from it. This time
we have arrived at our vulnerability in acceptance of it.

What was all that nonsense about putting on the broad smile of the fantasy

Why did I think I needed to dress up my limping psyche in the royal
colors of the magic kingdom and the phony pride of denial?

Siddha yoga
appeared to be a fortress which would protect me forever from my
vulnerability. After all those years I am discovering that my vulnerability
needs me to accept it, not to run from it, or destroy it, or transcend it.
It now seems to me that this understanding unlocked the gate which held me
inside syda long after my inner voice told me to leave.

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Re: A Sufi Cult
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: August 26, 2017 11:23PM

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We rarely Google check guru endorsements from friends
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: September 10, 2017 12:56AM

The most effective recruiters for a guru or hidden agenda group are people who do not know that they and their
sincerity are being pimped by their group.

Pimped to to recruit for their guru or group via their existing relationship networks.

The best recruiters are people you already trust. And the best recruiters
are not pushy - enthusiastic.

They are sincerely enthusiastic.

Sincerity is attractive and appealing.

Problem is, sincerity does not in itself prove anything. Sincerity is
like sweet tasting substances.

We are wired to seek out the taste of sweetness.

Sweetness can and has been used to mask the taste of poison.

Those you trust who are sincere, may without their knowledge have had
this very sincerity co-opted by indoctrination experts to serve an agenda of deceit.

Feelings....Only Feelings

These trusted friends, coworkers, a teacher at your children's school, lovers, relatives, even in some
cases, yoga teachers or therapists -- they will be unaware that
their feeling of salvation and transformation has been produced
a set of stimuli deployed by a dishonest group or guru, who are adept at manipulating the neurochemistry of trustful persons.

Feelings are not facts. Feelings are neurological flux elicited by stimuli.

Both crooks and saints can trigger ecstasies.

But the two have very different intents.

A crook may deceive and exploit a charismatic but naive saint. The crook can exploit the dead saint - avatar's reputation.

Persons who feel liberated from their addictions will be unaware that
they have not been freed from their addictions; they have merely
transferred their addiction to a guru or agenda driven group
that, unlike healthy families and participatory democracy, has features
which replicate features of a dysfunctional family in which addiction are fostered and fester. It does not matter if this all can be justified
by ancient tradition or by a human leader claiming to be god or at some
exalted astral-theosophical level of attainment.

Addicts are scared of losing access to their drug dealer. Disciples stab each other in the back and live in fear of losing access to and favor of the guru.

Those persons you trust do not feel exploited, even though
they are being exploited without being aware of it.

You are therefore unlikely to research this leader and group your
sincere, radient friend is involved with.

Even if you do learn alarming information about this group, you
may feel afraid to compromise a valued relationship by taking this
seriously. You may persuade yourself that this is obsolete
information, that it is about a different sect from the one your
friend is in.

You become an enabler for your friend by making these excuses to yourself.

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Healing From Purity Centered Authoritarian Aesthetics
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: October 17, 2017 12:32AM

A number of Western Traditionalists and Westernized Sufists have fostered
art movements. Evola was an early participant in the Dada movement. Rene Guenon
influenced the aesthetic theories of many Traditionalists. Guenon was introduced to Sufism by a Swedish artist, Agueli. Guenon influenced Frithjof Schuon.

Gurdjieff had ideas of his own regarding music and dance.

Small excerpts from a long and very interesting article by Joe Szimart

Szimhart followed Clare B Prophet, a theosophical guru-ess who dressed in white
and encouraged her followers to build bunkers.


(CUT stands for Church Universal and Triumphant)

Of Urinals and Dark Forces


An essay on harmful cult influence on an artist

Joe Szimhart
Abstract: This essay discusses cultic influences that affected my career as an artist in the late 1970s. I adopt a suggestion by researcher Ellen Dissanayake that a “behavior of art” means “aesthetic making special.” Dissanayake argues for a biological or evolutionary basis for the aesthetic impulse. That impulse to survive through art led to my desire to find the essence of creative inspiration in Theosophy and its sects because the Modern artists I emulated had pursued Theosophical ideas. My discussion of harmful effects centers primarily on a cult headed by Elizabeth C. Prophet. I also discuss related influences from G.I. Gurdjieff and Nicholas Roerich.


It is natural to view a cult with suspicion or as spurious if you are an outsider. The uninformed outsider will not share the feelings nor appreciate the aesthetic appeal, the language, and the meaning behind the devotion. The outsider may even experience revulsion. The scholar and the journalist may strive to appreciate the phenomenon of a cult aesthetically and historically with no intent to convert or “go native.” However, the natives or members of a cult experience a range of satisfying sensual and intellectual responses to ritual and dogma. Satisfying may not always mean entirely pleasurable, for example, in fire walking or fasting and end times myths or demon attack. Satisfaction comes from knowing that even unpleasant revelations and practices augment personal enlightenment or planetary salvation.

Faith provides enjoyment, but suspicion or doubt increases anxiety in the devotee. To sustain homeostasis in devotion, aesthetic judgment must adjust to the demands of the faith. If cults have aesthetic features that enhance their attractiveness, then members will adapt to these features. In other words, to belong to a cult requires certain adaptations and restrictions of aesthetic judgment in the devotee.


CUT viewed colors as aspects of cosmic “rays” of energy, some of which elevated consciousness while others trapped awareness in lower states. The color aided in one’s ascension or hindered it. For example, ascension-aiding rays were white/purity, yellow/intelligence, blue/god power, green/supply and health, pink/love, rose/deeper love, and violet/purification. The cult avoided black, brown, silver, gray, checkered or patterned colors, red, and muddy shades. The latter colors polluted the energy of the “lower bodies” or physical self composed of earth, air, fire and water. Classical music, certain hymns, Hindu bhajans, and chanted CUT decrees were good sounds but rock music, jazz, rap, and country music were deleterious. Gold jewelry could touch the skin but not silver. Silver as gray energy was too intellectual and lacked love. An organic, raw food diet was best when I was involved but basic vegetarianism was required. Sex was for procreation only and performed only after certain decrees or mantras. Celibacy was better. Sleeping was better metaphysically if on the back with right leg crossed over left and hands over the solar plexus.

In CUT teaching, certain environments like taverns and rock concerts contained dark forces called entities that could attach to one’s “aura” (a kind of personal force field). Newspapers, movies and television shows bombarded the devotee with psychic pollution. Nicotine, alcoholic drinks, sugar, chocolate, and all drugs could cause an entity or demon to lodge in one’s aura. CUT teachings chided devotees to avoid all negative thoughts, argument, anger, fear, jealousy, lust, doubt, and thoughts of feeling sick or crazy. Men’s hair length should not touch the collar and almost all the CUT men were clean-shaven. Modern or abstract art was not good, but realistic religious art enhanced one’s consciousness—Picasso, Camille Pisarro and Jackson Pollock were out while Raphael, Gustav Doré and Roerich were in. Cult teaching invaded all of my senses and appetites.


I thought I was into something new, into a cutting edge revelation that required submission first to achieve clarification with deep understanding coming later.

In subsequent years I learned that most if not all the “new” religious ideas that so intrigued and attracted me were recycled notions re-presented in modern drag or, if you will, a current aesthetic.

Cults continue to reinvent the wheels of human spirituality and too often repeat the mistakes of old and harmful group formations. I also learned that what appears first as a precious opportunity to transform my soul, if that were even possible, can easily convert to a cult of endless submission and mindless ritual.

The wheels merely ran in ruts around and around one leader’s grandiose claims. She wore the crown of the Mother of the Universe! She had the stamp of an ascended host on her metaphysical curriculum vitae! She was the most valuable person living on the planet! Was I willing to pay for the privilege of serving her mission with all I had and with my very life?



Roerich and Gurdjieff inferred that they were specially chosen by some higher power yet all that their disciples had for proof was the guru’s word and a devotee’s personal experience of charisma. Is the lesson here about what we do for our art and not about what our gurus do for our art?

The lesson for me from the cult experience as an artist is complicated. I can no more blame a group’s influence for my lack of creativity or success as an artist than I can blame my career as an exit counselor or mental health professional.

Cults like careers take up a lot of time.

I still exhibit a few paintings a year and attract a commission or win an award now and then but my income from art is negligible. The great artists are not distracted from their quest by jobs and family matters much less by quirky cults. Art is their job notwithstanding cultic influences.

The damage I think occurs more often to sensitive artists who are either early in their creative careers or struggling to establish an oeuvre or art identity.

If a struggling artist buys into the notion that a group or guru’s techniques and influence are necessary for a personal transformation to find one’s artistic identity, then the possibilities of restricting a creative career increase.

Mr. Szimhart suggests that recovering from an authoritarian cult also means re-assessing the aesthetics that form a major part of its doctrine.


I wish to point out how sensual signals perform as “triggers” to stimulate compliance to cult milieu and doctrine. Unloading all the cult-induced meaning (all black is bad) from signs in the environment can seem nearly impossible at first despite therapeutic assistance.

To be effective, I think, therapy of any kind should take into account the context and history of the delusional belief that affects a cult member’s aesthetic world. Most therapists I have known are client-centered and try to honor the cultural beliefs of their clients within reason.

As an exit counselor, I challenge false beliefs by introducing a wider frame of reference based on reasonable evidence—totalist cults by nature restrict information and choice in closed systems. My role is to encourage psychological and intellectual expansion.

For example, one of my clients, a young lady who was a dedicated CUT member for six years, left the cult after talking with me and a colleague for several days. Her parents arranged a non-coercive intervention at their home in Florida. A week later I escorted the now ex-member to the Unbound recovery center in Iowa but it was cold there and she needed a coat. She experienced near panic when, with my encouragement, she tried on a red jacket at a mall.

She was not yet ready for red!

Recovery required months for that ex-member to restore black and red to a wider and positive frame of reference. She needed to learn more about the source of the color code and its flimsy justification to dispel it. In my case, after making the emotional and intellectual adjustments, I could relate to colors appropriately and individually in short order.

In contrast to my client who had little background in comparative occultism, I already knew the history of how conflicted occultists were (and are) over the spiritual effects of color. Goethe saw red as “grave and magnificent” (Goethe, p. 315) whereas the “I AM” cult saw red as anger and charged with inappropriate sexual excitement, and Corinne Heline claims, “Red is the color whereby the Holy Spirit manifests the Activity Principle” (Heline, p. 40).

I was struggling with personal conflict: Was there any ideal or Platonic universal regarding color? Might black always be a negative? This weird color revelation through my daughter reestablished my appreciation for color and styles of art like Cubism prohibited by the cult.

I grasped that I was not capable of finding a universal theme for black, nor was there any compelling reason for me to pursue an absolute. I was neither God nor a god.

Consequently, I could again enjoy a Picasso, a Pisarro and a Pollock if I chose to. However, even if I could afford it, I doubt I would pay millions of dollars for a ceramic urinal even if it is a wonderful, historical joke.

Note: Szimhart wrote,

"If a struggling artist buys into the notion that a group or guru’s techniques and influence are necessary for a personal transformation to find one’s artistic identity, then the possibilities of restricting a creative career increase."

Independantly of Szimhart, Philip Kinnicott, music critic for The Washington Post
wrote that he feared that the composer Thomas de Hartmann's artistic career suffered because the composer submitted to the domination of Gurdjieff.

The Composer and the Musical Guru - Washington Post, 2000



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