If you are talking about the Bible, the Koran or the New Testament, exclusively I don't think there's anything in those writings about animals having souls, but I think they do and that's my right.Quote
pauliztarza
Can you please tell me the line in God's writing where he says he gave an animal a soul ?Quote
richardmgreen
A long time ago, I was talking to one of my aunt's about my dog, Zeus who was my family's German Shepherd and his hatred of that relative channeled through me. I believe that all sentient beings have souls and that everything that exists has divine intelligence and energy attached to it. Although Zeus passed on in '78, he lives through me.
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richardmgreenIf you are talking about the Bible, the Koran or the New Testament, exclusively I don't think there's anything in those writings about animals having souls, but I think they do and that's my right.Quote
pauliztarza
Can you please tell me the line in God's writing where he says he gave an animal a soul ?Quote
richardmgreen
A long time ago, I was talking to one of my aunt's about my dog, Zeus who was my family's German Shepherd and his hatred of that relative channeled through me. I believe that all sentient beings have souls and that everything that exists has divine intelligence and energy attached to it. Although Zeus passed on in '78, he lives through me.
In Hinduism from what I've been told by Hindus I've dialogued with, they believe that a soul gains karma with each incarnation and that a particular being may start off as a mosquito for example and through multiple incarnations may graduate to being a human being.
Rabbi Shlomo Carlebach was versed in extrabiblical works like The Zohar (The Book of Splendor) and he believed that animals have souls. He used to say that dogs don't have souls because they give their souls to their master.
Furthermore, there are scriptual verses that point out that animals have a type of soul called the nephesh. I would have to research what that means exactly but non-human sentient life forms have a type of intelligence.
In my family, we adopted 3 dogs: Duchess, Zeus and Princess. Each of these wonderful animals had distinct personalities and I believe that they have exsitence even after their passing on from this world.
It seems based on what you wrote that you are a Christian attempting to push a Christian viewpoint. It is actually against the policy of this board for people to preach a religious viewpoint and to try to convert people to that type of position. Essentially, this is an anti-cult site and we are here to monitor dangerous and cultic groups.Quote
pauliztarza
I understand your emphatic attitude towards animals. But, nay, they were not created in the image of God.
Hindu believe in travel of the soul and such belief is founded in Bhagavad-Gita and their tradion.
Can you sometimes look at the
www.jesus-is-lord.com or www.spres.net
and consider other authorities ?
Thanks for replying
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richardmgreenIt seems based on what you wrote that you are a Christian attempting to push a Christian viewpoint. It is actually against the policy of this board for people to preach a religious viewpoint and to try to convert people to that type of position. Essentially, this is an anti-cult site and we are here to monitor dangerous and cultic groups.Quote
pauliztarza
I understand your emphatic attitude towards animals. But, nay, they were not created in the image of God.
Hindu believe in travel of the soul and such belief is founded in Bhagavad-Gita and their tradion.
Can you sometimes look at the
www.jesus-is-lord.com or www.spres.net
and consider other authorities ?
Thanks for replying
Rick Ross has jumped into people's trying push a particular religion many times and I'm sure that he will tell you the same thing. I have been associated with this Rick A. Ross Institute for quite a few years.
Simply put, you are entitled to your beliefs but you can't try to enforce Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism etc. here. I offered up and experience I had and I'm actually at a loss as per how to explain it. That's why I posted what happened here.
It seems to me that "Creation in the image of God" is a matter of degree and is not absolute. All of the animals have a type of intelligence that is germane to their needs for survival. I can tell you many wonderful stories about Duchess, Zeus, Princess, and my friend Amie's cat Buddy.Quote
pauliztarza
I understand your emphatic attitude towards animals. But, nay, they were not created in the image of God.
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richardmgreenIt seems based on what you wrote that you are a Christian attempting to push a Christian viewpoint. It is actually against the policy of this board for people to preach a religious viewpoint and to try to convert people to that type of position. Essentially, this is an anti-cult site and we are here to monitor dangerous and cultic groups.Quote
pauliztarza
I understand your emphatic attitude towards animals. But, nay, they were not created in the image of God.
Hindu believe in travel of the soul and such belief is founded in Bhagavad-Gita and their tradion.
Can you sometimes look at the
www.jesus-is-lord.com or www.spres.net
and consider other authorities ?
Thanks for replying
Rick Ross has jumped into people's trying push a particular religion many times and I'm sure that he will tell you the same thing. I have been associated with this Rick A. Ross Institute for quite a few years.
Simply put, you are entitled to your beliefs but you can't try to enforce Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism etc. here. I offered up and experience I had and I'm actually at a loss as per how to explain it. That's why I posted what happened here.
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richardmgreenIt seems to me that "Creation in the image of God" is a matter of degree and is not absolute. All of the animals have a type of intelligence that is germane to their needs for survival. I can tell you many wonderful stories about Duchess, Zeus, Princess, and my friend Amie's cat Buddy.Quote
pauliztarza
I understand your emphatic attitude towards animals. But, nay, they were not created in the image of God.
After my family's last dog, Princess, was put to sleep on Sept. 9 of '98, she was cremated and for awhile before her box was buried her last remains were put in my parent's breakfront in the dining area. All of a sudden all of us (my Mom, Dad and myself) could feel her presence. I take it that she was still around. That's my belief and I have a right to it even if you can't find backing for it in Christianity.
Even among human beings, some people are smarter and more spiritual than others. I don't rank a murderer as up to the standards of a clergyman or professor in a university. Clearly both are not living or created equally in the image of God.
I believe that the soul get reabsorbed (subsumed) back into the Godhead after a person's passing. Even Christianity asserts that people will be resurrected on the last day, or Judgement Day or whatever.Quote
pauliztarza
Do you believe in reincarnation yourself ?
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"pauliztarza"
Christianity is term for religion. Totally opposite to being disciple of Jesus. Please, do not put unsaid words in my mouth. I never mentioned the word "Christianity". It is also insulting for believers in Christ because it implies He led some kind of religious movement, which He did not. How can God Himself lead the religious movement ?
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The bottom line is that you told people to look at a site called Jesus is Lord and other "authorities." As such you were promoting a particular belief system as authoritative to the exclusion of anything else. As of my studies of Christianity, Christianity was called The Way in Jesus' day.