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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: April 18, 2025 09:23AM

Souls do not evolve truly beyond the limits that have been imposed upon them.
The limits they impose upon themselves.
The limits society and religious and New Age teachings impose upon them.
What I have realized is that when you grasp many realities, you do not even care about sharing them.
You do not want to sit on a high chair like a guru.
You see that non sense as a calamity.
You just want to be left alone.
The truth d does not come free. It does not travel itself to just anybody.
The truth that sets you free is not for the faint at heart.

At me point you know that it is time to retire from the asylum and kindergarten.
Thay you are wasting your time.
Let all souls walk their own path.
You will be seen as a loser and a crazy person.
And there is so much freedom in that.
Who cares ultimately. Why waste your energy trying to open eyes that are glued?
Minds that are so programmed that no anti virus can ever repair.
Ultimately we are too arrogant to consider that maybe be a person we see as loser, may hold some wisdom.
And you reach a point where you do not even desire to help or elevate anybody.
Tired of talking to people who try to program you with their programs.
There may not be an ultimate truth. But there are many ultimate lies.


Maya is very powerful, but she can only cover eyes who hare too afraid to look at very ugly realities.
Those who have a narrow mind.
And ultimately souls need her protection. Maybe she is merciful enough to Protect those who are not ready. Or maybe she covers those who do not desire to be freed from illusion.
It is an absolute waste of energy to shed a light on the false light of this world.
But one can always try and expose lies. This one is easier and better digested.
Freedom is not handed out as easily as the maha mantra and some cheap beads during a free class by Midget.
And it is truly sad that people who walk into their slavery think that they have found freedom from the material world.
Ultimately true spirituality is like Russian roulette.
But the prefabricated ones have already killed you on a soul level.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: April 18, 2025 09:40PM

Truth wins,

Let’s drop the cult-speak, seriously. We already have perfectly good words in English to describe psychological self-deception. Dressing it up in religious jargon like “Maya” just props up centuries of dogma, elitism, and sectarian delusion. If you’re trying to see clearly, start by using language that doesn’t come pre-loaded with metaphysical cult baggage. That's where freedom starts.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: April 22, 2025 06:29PM

Truth wins Wrote:
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> Freedom is not handed out as easily as the maha
> mantra and some cheap beads during a free class by
> Midget.

Self-effulgent married paramahamsa ki jai!

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: May 07, 2025 03:33AM

https://www.wired.com/story/tulsi-gabbard-dni-weak-password/

Let me guess:


PW: JayaSrilaPrabhupada_108

or

PW: HaribolSpiritSoul_108

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: May 07, 2025 03:35AM

..."The password associated with all of the accounts in question includes the word “shraddha,” which appears to have personal significance to Gabbard: Earlier this year, The Wall Street Journal reported that she had been initiated into the Science of Identity Foundation, an offshoot of the Hare Krishna movement into which she was reportedly born and which former members have accused of being a cult. Several former adherents told WSJ that they believe Gabbard received the name “Shraddha Dasi” when she was allegedly received into the group. Gabbard’s deputy chief of staff, Alexa Henning, responded to questions from the Journal at the time by posting them on X and accusing the news media of publicizing “Hinduphobic smears and other lies.”

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: May 07, 2025 08:31AM

Good article.

She makes a mockery of herself and the position she holds.

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Justice for Sri Shim! Killed in 2016 motorboat accident
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: May 08, 2025 01:09AM

Let us not forget Sri Shim!

Google citations here:

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: May 08, 2025 04:04PM

Sri Shim.

2016
"State may change rules after diver hit, killed by boat off Lanikai"
[www.youtube.com]

How did this case ultimately end? Was Sai Hansen ultimately acquitted, given a ticket for operating a motorboat without a license, or was the classification changed to involuntary manslaughter? Did he pay a fine or serve time? Was it ultimately determined who was on the boat besides Sai Hansen since the child called 911?

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: May 08, 2025 09:27PM

Culthusiast, I wanted to apologize for not respecting your views.
I get it that you see butler as the problem and not the path of bhakti yoga.
I see that I have fallen for the game of division.
And ultimately I am also part of the clown show.
Leaving a cult does not make anybody much better or wiser.
I guess that it gets even harder when you have to hold yourself accountable.
Ultimately we have not been given the whole truth.
All that we can do is argue about half truths and lies.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: May 09, 2025 02:15AM

EXPOSÉ ON THE SCIENCE OF IDENTITY FOUNDATION (SIF) AND CHRIS BUTLER’S NETWORK OF CONTROL, ABUSE, AND COVER-UPS

This post compiles firsthand accounts, public records, and reporting related to Chris Butler (aka Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa) and the group he founded, the Science of Identity Foundation. The organization operates as a high-control group centered around Butler’s absolute authority, with influence extending into business, politics, media, and international operations.

1. FATAL BOATING INCIDENT COVER-UP (2016)
- Diver Sri Shim was killed and his stepson injured by a Zodiac boat off Lanikai Beach, Hawaii.
- The boat belonged to Chris Butler and was often used in front of his beachfront home by Butler or his bodyguards to ward off swimmers inthe water gettign too close to Butler's mansion.
- Sai Hansen was cited for operating without a license, but charges were dropped.
- Butler’s stepson Siddha Bellord was confirmed to be on the boat; his voice is heard on the 911 call.
- A young girl (believed to be Bellord’s daughter) made the 911 call, yet her identity was never disclosed.
- Bellord and the child disappeared before authorities arrived. No one else was charged.
- Local reports said the boat was used regularly to intimidate swimmers near Butler’s beachfront compound. Pictures reveal Siddha Bellord and Sai frequently sped around the waterfront, scaring tourists and swimmers deemed too close to Butler's house.

2. DOWN TO EARTH NATURAL FOODS AND QNET TIES
- Down to Earth is owned by Healthy’s Inc., linked to Butler’s disciples.
- Mark Fergusson, CEO, is a long-time follower (Mahabhagavat das).
- A 2000 lawsuit alleged religious discrimination and preferential hiring of cult members.
- IRS filings show Healthy’s donated large sums of stock to the Science of Identity Foundation.
- Healthy’s has financial ties to the MLM QI Group (QNet), which has been investigated globally for fraud.

3. CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND FRAUD ALLEGATIONS
- Ex-members describe involvement in money laundering and drug-linked operations in Southeast Asia.
- Bribes were used to secure fake visas, illegal employment, and real estate deals.
- Businesses were used as fronts for laundering and donation pipelines.

4. NEW ZEALAND MOVIE PROJECTS
- SIF attempted to produce a film starring Siddha Bellord in New Zealand.
- Properties were rented for Butler and altered without permits.
- Locals reported intimidation and legal violations when the group was exposed.
- The production was allegedly funded by followers and cost millions.

5. TULSI GABBARD’S CULT-CONNECTED RISE
- Tulsi Gabbard was raised within SIF under Butler’s mentorship and at his Philippines illegal school for girls.
- Her political rise was enabled by donations and staffing from SIF loyalists.
- Her public image was sanitized to remove references to Butler while keeping his backing.
- Her father Mike Gabbard and mother are all SIF Butler disciples.

6. CHRIS BUTLER’S EXTREME LIFESTYLE
- Lives in guarded beachfront homes with million-dollar air filtration systems and foil-lined walls.
- Travels in private jets outfitted with white linens to avoid germs.
- Maintains a 14-page rulebook for food prep; fines followers for mistakes.
- Rejects meals regularly despite hours of follower effort.
- Spends his days wandering between rooms watching politics and sports on TV.
- Surrounded by bodyguards, receives daily massages and service.
- Personal attendants must sign NDAs and live in spartan quarters.
- Servants are on-call 24/7 and often awakened at night.
- Followers were instructed to fake illnesses to obtain prescription drugs for him.
- Former doctor described Butler as mentally ill and a severe hypochondriac.

7. HARASSMENT OF JOURNALISTS AND CRITICS
- Journalist Chrissy Grallow was harassed after investigating SIF in Hawaii.
- Former member Rama Ranson was sued and targeted with smear tactics.
- Ex-followers report stalking, blacklisting, and online harassment.

8. VISA FRAUD IN THE PHILIPPINES ILLEGAL BOY AND GIRLS CULT SCHOOLS
- Gurukula boarding school for boys/girls operated illegally in the Philippines.
- Bribes were paid to extend foreign devotees' visas.
- Toby Ramon Tamayo acted as a facilitator for these illegal extensions.

9. CULT THEOLOGY AND CHILD EXPLOITATION
- Butler was excommunicated by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami for disobedience and financial abuse.
- After Prabhupada’s death, Butler invented his own lineage and broke from ISKCON.
- Broke vows and married his disciple Wai Lana (Vaishnava Dasi), an Asian yoga celebrity; the brand was used to fund SIF.
- Their son Siddha Bellord received elite treatment in the illegal boys’ school, including massages, hot showers, freedom to go to town, and study with real teachers, special food, and ignoring bad behavior.
- Tulsi Gabbard attended a girls’ gurukula counterpart.
- The schools featured an austere program for boys as young as 9 years old of cold bucket showers and waking daily at 4AM.
- Students were made to listen to graphic and explicit sexual rants and anger bouts of Butler and shown hateful videos about homosexuals.
- Curriculum consisted of "vedic" astrology and mythology, not standard education.
- Students returned home with no valid credits and were far behind academically.
- Many children were sent there to be lifelong servants to Butler.

10. MURDER OF CAROLINE SINAVAIANA-GABBARD
- Tulsi Gabbard’s aunt Caroline, a vocal SIF critic, was murdered in Samoa in 2024.
- The accused, Sia Figiel, was a friend with no violent history.
- Figiel appeared dazed and confused and claimed no memory of the killing.
- The brutality of the murder suggests someone else was involved.
- Caroline was the only family member who publicly criticized Tulsi’s SIF connections.
- Her death cleared the way for Tulsi’s unopposed political reinvention.
- It coincided with her alignment with Donald Trump and national security ambitions.

CONCLUSION
The Science of Identity Foundation operates as a cult hidden under a yoga and wellness brand.
It is deeply involved in politics, legal manipulation, psychological control, and financial exploitation.
The evidence across decades points to a pattern, not isolated incidents.
The public deserves to see it clearly—and call it what it is. This is a fraction of what is exposed and known. To this day followers worship Butler like he is God on Earth. Even Tulsi Gabbard's official passwords in her Government role harken back to her cult life/upbringing. Ex-followers report being openly humiliated in front of their godbrothers and sisters by Butler or on distributed letters and tapes.

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