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The following link was sent to me by Dassi.
There have been some reports on this forum about how several of Butler’s followers left his cult to come to another guru from India named Narayana Maharaja. [ He was one of ACB's former godbrothers and part of the Gaudiya Math. ACB broke away from this group prior to starting his cult in America.]
Also, several ex ISKCON members joined up with the NM group after their own scandals. I do not have any information to validate or invalidate whether they just traded one cult for another. It does seem to follow the more traditional Vedic religion. Hopefully they will not need a thread of their own on Rick Ross, but who knows?
The following clip is a conversation between Butler’s doctor of many years and Narayana Maharaja.
“Gurudev: what Siddhaswarup give to you?
Dr T: He give me nothing... after 25 years I don't know nothing, he kept me in darknes give only little light, there is no gayatri mantra, no harikatha, no rasa bhajana, there is nothing, no Krishna, no Radha, nothing, only darkness.”
The following comments about the video demonstrate how Butler’s cult has such a formidable stranglehold on followers using FEAR. They really believe this man is doomed. Using the same phrases and buzz words with which exers are all too familiar: “threw your spiritual life away” “ covered up” “shelter” “maya devi has you” “beg for forgiveness”…these broken English comments probably come from someone who probably never met Butler in person.
christar108 - if this is the siddhaswarupanda - chris butler, your speaking about.....i pray for you to beg for forgiveness because u have been very offensive.....darkness...come on....SP is pure devotee so please clarify and please please tell me you werent speaking of siddha i know.......please
-they don't do this and they don't that but they do chant the maha mantra...u said it yourself... who are you to critisize? ...such shame you threw your entire spiritual life away in a heart beat...not qualified because he doesn't do this or that...such a shame your so covered up...what did Siddha give you -- he gave you shelter...he gave you krishna...but maya devi certainly has you in her grasp...please beg for forgiveness...look into your heart and just try...its a start.
I do not know if the Narayana Maharaja group is a cult or not, but from videos he freely disagrees with the opinions of other Vaishnavas, which is healthy in any religious organization. So that was refreshing to see.
There is one video titled “Narayana Maharaja blashemes Srila Prabhupada”
that must have been posted by the other competitive group [ISKCON]:
Narayana Maharaja openly declares that the elder (ACB) Prabhupada was wrong [about a certain Vaishnava doctrine].
"I do not agree with this statement; and he [Srila Prabhupada] cannot write, never."
Another video stated “No Bhakti, only money” NM acknowledges this and states that no one can be sincere following ISKCON – NM says that if leaders are not sincere, how can the followers be sincere – they only collect money – nothing else – have so many scams – if sincere they leave. Says collecting money is not a requirement. Those that want only to make money will never come (to NM) “they will protest”.
Not to get ones hopes up that NM might be a real religious leader, because this sort of thing was said by Butler about ISKCON as well…
I would still be vigilant and cautious about following any doctrine and use the Rick Ross resources on how to identify a cult.
I do not endorse this guru Narayana Maharaja, but find it interesting that he comes out publicly against Butler and ISKCON, and rightfully so. I guess only time will tell if he is just the other side of the same cult coin or a legitimate religious leader (is that an oxymoron?) *
The exer who sent me these links stated that she was glad that she did not find out about this other guru because she would have fallen into the same trap again. It is true what Vox states that it takes years to get out from under the cults spell.*Tuco says, "And faith unfaithful kept him falsely true." ~ Tennyson (Idylls of the King)