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So tell me please, Nathan, what would it take to satisfy you? Under what conditions would you be convinced? What would constitute "proof" of what we say in your mind? What will it take, Nathan? I offered you a free book. I have offered to discuss this with you personally, by phone. I have tried and tried to get this information out to you and you refuse to accept it. Then you come to the table and say "I don't believe it! There's an absence of truth in your claims!" Well, duh! How do you know? You refuse to see the evidence! You've never met these people! Do you really want to learn something here, are you willing to be objective in analyzing this matter? Or have you got no desire to be reasoned with, no desire to learn? What would it take to satisfy you that we're not just making it all up out of the blue?
Please, humor me Nathan. You didn't answer my question. What would it take to satisfy you that Doug, Wendy, God of Meat, matthewtoo, myself, and all the rest are neither lying nor under a mass delusion and are misinterpreting their experience with TFI? Who are you and what is your interest in this message board? You have nothing to contribute to the discussion and it seems like your only object here is to divert the flow of conversation and frustrate our efforts. You are a shill for TFI. Do you know what a shill is? Here is one definition that I found online:
[b:0442a38961]One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.[/b:0442a38961]
If you think you're helping TFI by continuing to post here, you're wrong. Quit trying to stick up for them. You are making yourself look foolish, and are proving our point for us. You are actually making them look bad. You are making [i:0442a38961]you[/i:0442a38961] look bad. You refuse to read the book or the consider the evidence and again, it seems like you are very biased against our claims because they do not fit the picture you have of TFI. You refuse to look at this matter objectively, that is, in a manner uninfluenced by emotions or personal prejudices. The best you can come up with is to imply that Wendy and/ or myself I do not know God. What you are presenting is a textbook example of a display of defensiveness by someone who is caught up in an abusive religious system. Your pride will not allow you to admit that you have been fooled. Usually, it is an appeal to pride that lures somebody into a cult, and it's pride that retains you there. Nobody likes to admit that they're wrong. Again, until you have a well-rounded sense of what you're talking about, until you've read Wendy's book, until you've spent some time on the Block and have interacted with these people for anything more than a casual period of time, until you have critically and objectively examined the evidence, until you are qualified to tell us about what TFI culture is like, than please, go away. Hell man, you've never met any of these people in person. Doesn't that mean something to you? The best thing you can come up with in terms of a defense of TFI is "You're lying!" You sound foolish, stubborn and naive and everybody knows it but you. Nothing personal, as I don't know you. If you believe Ole's doctrine, you are decieved and are believing a lie. Period. That's not a safe "in my opinion", that's the stone cold truth. The best you can do is to insult me. That's weak. So please, do your homework thoroughly (like I did) or else go away.
If, during a 7:30 Bible study, you came at Ole with the half-baked arguments you come here with, he'd laugh and call you an idiot. Yes, he would! He'd say that you have the mind of a brute beast and tell you to quit sucking on that menstrual rag you have in your mouth. THAT is the real Ole Anthony. Don't you dare tell me I am wrong. You know what you are doing (trolling) and you are pissing me off in my flesh. You don't know squat about me and my life. Don't you dare tell me that I do not strive to know God.
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So tell me please, Nathan, what would it take to satisfy you? Under what conditions would you be convinced? What would constitute "proof" of what we say in your mind? What will it take, Nathan? I offered you a free book. I have offered to discuss this with you personally, by phone. I have tried and tried to get this information out to you and you refuse to accept it. Then you come to the table and say "I don't believe it! There's an absence of truth in your claims!" Well, duh! How do you know? You refuse to see the evidence! You've never met these people! Do you really want to learn something here, are you willing to be objective in analyzing this matter? Or have you got no desire to be reasoned with, no desire to learn? What would it take to satisfy you that we're not just making it all up out of the blue?