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Over 40 years of pedophilia in Swami Prabhupadas grand spiritual organization.

Under the Swamis direction, he set up a bunch of schools or kids as young as 5 years old. Abusese of these kids started early on when he was still alive. The schools were operated by unqualified teachers, had no counselors and there was no system in place to deal with abuse. all was swept under the rug.

Years later, the whole thing cracked open. The society formed a hush hush protection agency internally to monitor and take responsibility.

But alas, it continued on to this very day an age. Jai ho!

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And you honestly think ISKCON is the only place this garbage has gone on unchecked or swept conveniently under the rug of "don't criticize the devotees"! code of silence?

Gaudiya math was riddled with this shit as are many contemporary gaudiya off-shoots.

Is it any wonder? A cult built upon the foundational philosophy that the highest form of devotion is to realize ones "true eternal spiritual form" as a 12 year old "majari" maidservant of the eternal sexy couple radha krishna...

You have grown-ass gurus like Bhaktivinode sitting in a little hut writing little fantasies he is having of being a 12 year old cowherd girl helping krishna and radha "get off" for eternity. But you know, it's "transcendental" so it's all good prabhu...

How is this a healthy spiritual system and considered remotely rational as an objective form of spirituality?

Siddha pranali. Read about it. Bhaktisiddhnata practiced and advocated it.


Any religious system that has some sort of naive ideology concerning sexuality, family life, sex and the repression or renunciation of something as biological and naturalistically sound as sex is directly responsible for the enormous amount of sexual perversion and frustration as well as ultimately things like rape and so forth. The fact of the matter is that most of these kinds of transgressions that deal with sexuality in the world have always had a religious underpinning. You will always find some sort of pervert out there who is attacking people having their origin of thinking and aberration directly related to religious ideologies that vilify sexuality. That is a fact and can be shown statistically.

Teaching young men and women about respectful sexual relationships as well as how to communicate and relate to one another as humans sharing an Earthly experience is a lot more fruitful than the majority of garbage that children learn in religious contexts. Me and my God Brothers sitting and suffering through Chris Butler's lecture rants did nothing for us in terms of bettering our ability to forge healthy relationships in the future and raise families.

Voiceless are the victims of cult spirituality. They are taught that to speak up is "vaishnava aparadha". They are taught that what they are experiencing as any type of injustice or discomfort is their "karma". They are told that the guru is gods representative on earth and not to be questioned and only to be fully surrendered to...

And these cults go unchecked hiding under any banner they can continue to operate under. Now they call themselves "hindus" even though never in the history of this specific cult was this label used to describe themselves. They cry Hindu-phobia when you call them on their crimes and BS ideologies...

Prabhupada knowingly and naively initiated to very high posts blunt perverts. He naively thoht that his chanting and fairy take scriptures would "purify" his flawed followers who needed psychological therapy and gave them instead access to innocent kids... such grand insight he had.

But then again is it any real wonder? The swami himself was married at 22 to an 11 year old. He laughs in his lectures how his wife cried when he approached her for sex...

Bhaktiviniopde was also raised in a culture where he married his wife when she was 6 years old. Guess what? She died at childbirth. That's what happens when you impregnate kids...

These guru's think it is "normal" how they grew up. Prabhupada claims in lectures that a 12 year old girl is ready to have sex at that age. That as soon as a girl has a period she is "ready"... He believed in polygamy as a healthy practice... he "arranged" hundreds of marriages. Some were underage.

Think before you get enamored by the singing and dancing devotees you see on the street. This is not a healthy spiritual system. It is not based on rational thought and it has definitely not resulted or attracted the most brightest tools in the shed... It took ISKCON nearly 40 years to write up a code of ethics and set up any type of system to deal with abuses. and naturally the so-called failsafe are all controlled by unquestionable gurus... convenient to say the least...

RUN.

For reference and context of my mention of Butler, AKA, Chris Butler, Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahmsa in this post. He is a guru disciple of Bhaktivedanta swami and I grew up in His overseas gurukul where brahmacharis were also molested/groped/touched in unwanted ways. That's what you get when you put a bunch of boys going through puberty into a school together with no parents or models of a healthy relationship...

You can read more about that off-shoot ISKCON/Gaudiya cult here if you care: [forum.culteducation.com]

The moral of the story, the abuse is very much still alive and will forever tarnish and erode this cult. Sorry to say.

RUN while you can. Do not raise your kids in the clown show. Do not trust any "schools" or "daycares" or "bhakta camps" they promote. You are leaving your kids in the hands of delusional people.

Damn! I thought that this was a marrying young girl was a Muslim thing.
Asides from bowing down, chanting on beads, I guess this oo was inpsired by the Vedic culture.
How fascinating.
I am sure that I would have been convinced to find this normal.
Why an absolute nightmare over all.
I am not sure why we call the truth ugly. It is lies that are ugly.

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Gotta wonder if for ISKON pedophilia is a feature rather than a bug.

It's not a feature, corboy; it's a bug.

Right away in Srimad-Bhagavatam, in the very first purport, Prabhupada starts talking about the difference between "pure sex psychology" and the "perverted reflection of the original fact." This is what he opens with:

Srila Visvanatha Cakravati Thakura specifically deals with the original and pure sex psychology (adi-rasa), devoid of all mundane inebriety. The whole material creation is moving under the principle of sex life. In modern civilization, sex life is the focal point for all activities. Wherever one turns his face, he sees sex life predominant. Therefore, sex life is not unreal. Its reality is experienced in the spiritual world. The material sex life is but a perverted reflection of the original fact. The original fact is in the Absolute Truth, and thus the Absolute Truth cannot be impersonal. It is not possible to be impersonal and contain pure sex life. Consequently, the impersonalist philosophers have given indirect impetus to the abominable mundane sex life because they have overstressed the impersonality of the ultimate truth. Consequently, man without information of the actual spiritual form of sex has accepted perverted material sex life as the all in all. There is a distinction between sex life in the diseased material condition and spiritual sex life.

--Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.1.1 (partial purport)

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Then, in the purport to SB 7:1:29, Prabhupada talks about how women are like fire, and men are like butter:

"If a butter pot and fire are kept together, the butter within the pot will certainly melt. Woman is compared to fire, and man is compared to a butter pot. However advanced one may be in restraining the senses, it is almost impossible for a man to keep himself controlled in the presence of a woman, even if she is his own daughter, mother or sister. Indeed, his mind is agitated even if one is in the renounced order of life. Therefore, Vedic civilization carefully restricts mingling between men and women. If one cannot understand the basic principle of restraining association between man and woman, he is to be considered an animal. That is the purport of this verse."

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So Prabhupada opens with a discussion of "pure" versus "perverted" sex psychology, and then as the volume progresses he discourages men from ever being along with a female, period. He says that this is because some men will be unable to control themselves while in the presence of a female, no matter who she is or how old she is. It's similar to the "Billy Graham rule," except Prabhupada took things even farther than Billy Graham did.

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A little more.....

Basically: these GBC demons today believe in karma, but they don't believe that they are subject to it the way everybody else is. They believe that they are above karma, transcendental to it. To them, all bad things that befall others, are the fault of the person who suffered them because of misdeeds committed in this or some other life (reincarnarion). So therefore: in effect, they believe themselves to be incapable of abusing others. Not only that, but from this point of view raping a child could even be seen as a virtuous act, because the rapist is understood to be the agent of the raped's karma, and therefore to be the agent of God's mercy, from this twisted, evil, demonic point of view. A lot like how Catholic priest Rudy Kos used to teach little boys that fellating him was just another way of taking Holy Communion. THAT is how they justify and rationalize it, corboy. I guarantee you that Prabhupada would not have been OK with raping children, not at all. Prabhupada advocated for abusers of children to be hanged, put to death.



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TYPO; CORRECTION:

So Prabhupada opens with a discussion of "pure" versus "perverted" sex psychology, and then as the volume progresses he discourages men from ever being ALONE with a female, period. He says that this is because some men will be unable to control themselves while in the presence of a female, no matter who she is or how old she is. It's similar to the "Billy Graham rule," except Prabhupada took things even farther than Billy Graham did.

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Discussion is about pedophilia problems in Iskon schools, not adult women.

To address your specific query, corboy:

In ISKCON, pedophilia is a bug, an aberration, and is not a feature of the religious practice as taught by the institution itself.

Same as in Catholicism. Pedophilia is not a feature of Roman Catholic doctrine and practice, and it's not a feature of Gaudiya Vaisnava doctrine and practice either.

Prabhupada would not have been OK with anybody having sex with anybody who they were not married to, and he especially would not have been OK with anybody abusing children in any way.

Prabhupada is relevant to the discussion because he is the man who founded the whole ISKCON organization. He's the acarya, the preceptor. His teachings are the basis for the whole thing, and I am here to tell you that no where in Prabhupada's teachings is it taught that child abuse in any form is anything other than damnable.



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