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2020 Covid in the Haight -- Krisnhas are back
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: September 28, 2020 02:01AM

The Krishna outreach emphasizes yoga and meditation. What "intelligent persons"
(ISKON-Speak for potential converts) are not told is that the smiling person facing them is a Hare Krishna recruiter who believes the non ISKON world is hell and women are only for housekeeping submission to the husband and birthing Krishna babies.

The smiling recruiter will not inform you of ISKON dogma concerning women, sex and children. For this read an account by a former ISKON devotee who spent over 10 years in the movement.

ISKON What I learned: Women Sex and Children

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I learned that service to Krishna trumps mundane morality and ethics—that ethics is, most fundamentally, whatever serves the mission (ethics based on any other motivation is mere sentimentality and mental speculation). To get one of our books or other products into the hands of a non-devotee, and to separate him or her from their money, one could say and do virtually anything. I learned that, despite appearances, such actions could not be called lying or cheating, because they represent the enactment of a higher law, meant for the true benefit of the donor.

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I learned that human beings who are not members of the Hare Krishna movement are essentially clueless as to the nature of reality, and that it is our momentous duty and thankless task to enlighten them. Since most people are not intelligent or pious enough to realize the truth of our lofty teachings directly, we must do whatever is necessary to get them to buy our things and donate money, whereby they will benefit indirectly. In other words, we're so unfailingly kind and compassionate that we will skillfully bypass their external consciousness (which rejects Krishna) and compel them ("by hook or crook," in Prabhupada's words) to give us money, which will earn them Krishna's blessings (like it or not).

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What a Smiley Krishna Recruiter Truly Thinks of You
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: September 28, 2020 02:07AM

From Oh The Things That I Have Learned! Steven J Gelberg

Steven J. Gelberg was a member of ISKCON (the International Society for Krishna Consciousness) from 1970 through 1987 (ages 18-35).

Corboy note: Gelberg's information must be taken seriously. Gelberg was an ISKCON devotee for seven consecutive years that Prabhupada was alive. He would have seen what ISKON was from its early days and for six years following Prabhupada's death - a time when ISKCON was rocked by murders and drug smuggling scandals)

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Just as native Arctic peoples possess a multiplicity of words for snow, we spiritual islanders had a wealth of terms for the vast hoards of non-devotees surrounding us: conditioned souls, sense-gratifiers, fools, rascals, meat-eaters, materialists, mental speculators, miscreants, and demons (along with the proper Sanskrit term for each). I learned that it was necessary to be tough-minded and unsentimental in our view of fallen humanity.

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I learned that any critic of ISKCON is, by definition, a demon. Who but an evil person would want to criticize something as good, pure and holy as Krishna consciousness?

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I learned that any such criticism, even if it seemed that it might have substance, was null and void, because it came from meat-eaters and sex-mongers. What could they possibly know?

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I learned that whatever admirable qualities a non-devotee may appear to have—however seemingly benign, benevolent or admirable—the mere fact that the person is not a devotee of Krishna renders him a sinner, to be avoided at all costs. Even our biological family and former friends were to be avoided as far as possible, lest we become contaminated or, alternatively, incinerated: to associate with non-devotees was, according to our scriptures, tantamount to entering "a cage of fire."



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Re: 2020 Covid in the Haight -- Krisnhas are back
Posted by: The Whirlwind ()
Date: September 28, 2020 07:12AM

corboy Wrote:
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> ISKON What I learned: Women Sex and Children
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Actually, it's "ISKCON", not "ISKON". You'd come across as a more credible and well-informed source of information, if you spelled the name if the cult right. Just sayin'. :-)



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