An interesting video about recognition of the Self and an ego simultaneously in an analogy of a picture at 1:27: [www.youtube.com]

Yes, zizlz,

that is one possible interpretation. Because most people are not 'ready' to hear Moo's ultimate truth, then they don't become enlightened by his statement; "You are the self".

"It is not enough" just to hear it. You have to 'believe' it, or 'accept' it or meditate on it or something else, entirely, I don't know and Mooji doesn't ever make it clear.

Or you may be someone who will never be 'ready' for this important truth. Although that option isn't too popular with seekers! Mooji does not clarify his position, ever. He only gets vaguer and more convoluted in his explanations.

Meanwhile, people keep hoping and spending.

Sahara71 Wrote:
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> Or you may be someone who will never be 'ready'
> for this important truth. Although that option
> isn't too popular with seekers! Mooji does not
> clarify his position, ever. He only gets vaguer
> and more convoluted in his explanations.

Very true! In real Advaita Vedanta and also in Buddhism there's a lot of purification that needs to be done first, to make it possible for one to see the truth. And even then only a few seem to get it. The instant enlightenment Mooji peddles is a con.

In Zmar silence retreat: The Power of Silence: [www.youtube.com] at 2:12:21, I estimated the satsang attendance is around 500 and the hall is divided in two parts at 0;30. Now I understand why they make two satsangs in Zmar ..? The last year was one Zmar retreat around 800 people....Mooji is definitely loosing his audience and paying followers.....



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Watch ambitious persons step into Moos shoes.

Anyone whose name is in Moos database may be targeted for recruitment later on, especially if they have money or acquire money.

If you have left Moo, beware of anyone who tries to sell you another guru. Even if a trusted friend does this, beware.

Another death at the Moo Cult compound:

[mooji.org]

To quote the Mooji Organisation:

"Claire had an illness with a cough, and developed difficulty breathing. On Friday, an ambulance was called to her in the local village. On the way to the hospital, her condition worsened and she stopped breathing. Despite the ambulance team’s efforts to resuscitate, she passed away at 5pm on 4 October, 2019."

My thoughts and prayers to the family and friends of the deceased. May she rest in peace.

Why does a young woman of only 35 years of age die from a "cough" while she is in the company of a "caring spiritual community"? We already know that the Moo Organisation constantly issue disclaimers that they cannot assist people who have psychological illness. What do they do to assist people who are physically sick and who need medical attention? Perhaps they do too little?

It's quite rare for someone who is young and otherwise well to die of a 'cough'. Are people who travel to Portugal to join this cult told to have all their immunizations up to date? Are they told they will need travel insurance to cover a medical evacuation in case of emergency?

Will the family of Claire get any answers?

In Be Scofield's article about Moo, there's a reference to an occasion when Moo reprimanded the group doctor in public.

Go to Scofield's Becoming God in Portugal. Do Cntrl +F
and the word 'doctor' and it should take us to that reference.

[gurumag.com]

It is time to ask questions.

Who are the health care personnel at Monte Sahaja Zmar and Rishkesh?

What are their credentials and qualifications?

Are their licenses in good standing?

Are they capable of putting the patients welfare ahead of Moos and his organizations reputation should there be a conflict between the two.

If you are an ashram physician, in the eyes of the world and the law, you are a fiduciary. People are in your care and their welfare takes priority over a gurus authority, even if you are convinced that guru is God and is infallible.

The physician is accountable to the law, in ways that are clearly defined. A physicians authority is regulated and defined by law, in ways gurus are not.

I just noticed this facebook page: "Mooji and the Guru Papers"

Looks like it's been around since April... I haven't looked around it much yet but it looks like there's some great stuff there. There's an amazing photo-shopped image of Moo holding up the book cover!

About Claire's illness:
There is a lot of people in Monte sahaja ashram, who are brainwashed by Mooji’s neo advaita satsangs and are also seriously mentally or physically sick and do not care about themselves and do not see a doctor on a regular basis, they think they may be healed by Mooji satsangs and a community life. One source from MS, who lived there for many years, he told me that an ambulance emergency transport was called very often into MS because many devotees got mental delusional breakdown there. They were not able to tent-camp for so long time under wild-hot/could conditions, work hard, simple-poor food, and no medications…. Mooji has accepted everybody for his satsang audience there, the new year ashram photos, and physical work. It is actually a large camp....



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Lets not forget most of the longterm people have no money and no health insurance anyway. So how would they see a doctor? And yes, Moo says often, that one needs only satsang, it is the cure for everything.