Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: AnnetteChappelle ()
Date: May 05, 2019 01:33AM

ziziz-

Yes, it is serious. Not everyone has the money or access to specialists to get help. They walk around life completely out of it, with no help, and at some point may try to take their lives. Meanwhile, m knows what he has done, many still ask him to help, and he sits back and abandons them and distances from them and then smears them. It’s all outline in Amma Tanya White’s videos. This is what he does. It is his pattern.

And no one talks about it, unless you stand up and people trust you in emails and Skype.

I think it is a mistake made by many to deny people their voices and “protect m image”

They are on the wrong side of this and it shows they lack empathy, just as m does.

Also, it is ENTIRELY different to be with him when he’s in his sweats and t shirt when cameras aren’t rolling...and watching him on stage or online.

ENTIRELY DIFFERENT and if you want that and get that chance have some money saved up for help afterwards.

Unless poisoned milk is your thing. Then chug away!



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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: Valma ()
Date: May 05, 2019 01:44AM

In line with the current discussion, here excerpt of a testimonial of a seeker who lived for a while in Sahaja:

"I didn’t want him to but he touched me, kissed my check, took my face between his hands and stared directly into my eyes for a long time. I didn’t know what was supposed to happen but I felt a lot of pain. I was always just sitting alone in silence when he would approach me and do these things. I’ve been told by an energy person he was trying to see if he could enter me energetically, and he did somewhat but something stopped him. I have no idea how these things work at all. I don’t even know about chakras."

How would you call that kind of behavior? Would you feel comfortable with it where you in the shoes of someone who is going through a vulnerable phase of life?

Red alarm big time as far as i am concerned when reading this passage.

Now some will say she "made up this story", there are no proof or no witness, maybe no usual camera filming the scene since it happened when she was alone with M.

Do you need more testimonials to be convinced that it is better to avoid Moo enterprise altogether? I wish Moo the best, but do feel necessary that we here give warning signals to anyone susceptible to follow him as long as he does not question himself seriously and respond appropriately to all the questions that have been raised so far but were never addressed straightforwardly by him.

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: AnnetteChappelle ()
Date: May 05, 2019 02:49AM

That is something that I wrote to James Swartz in an email exchange I had with him. I have all the original emails. This news article he has put up I was never asked if he could use my emails for it. He’s changed so much content it was initially hard for me to recognize it as my exchange with him.

After these emails, where he wrote something entirely different. More like we should be compassionate not afraid or angry of m because “m can’t control his urges”...

Alarm bells went off! Notice he doesn’t say that at all in his newsletter.

Be careful around James Swartz. There was some reason batgap removed his videos as well which I saw on his website shiningworld.

Why put down m unless to get his students to come to him?

Why twist my email exchange. And I NEVER said I was “infatuated” with m, BTW...or some of the other things he writes.

What a sad state of affairs. I thought I’d write him to ask about Advaita Vedanta and he asked me to share my story and then he published it. But not until he re-wrote it. What a jerk! First m and now him...

He is UNCLEAN. BE CAREFUL OF HIM!



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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: Ananas ()
Date: May 05, 2019 03:12AM

Annette, that is really ugly! I heard he moved to spain, just a few hours from where m is located...Coincidence? Better be near to get m students "fresh from the plate"....

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: AnnetteChappelle ()
Date: May 05, 2019 03:15AM

As for m, I do have evidence of many things I claim. I have a law enforcement background and it was just natural to collect it. I have a lot of pictures of me in distress. With m nearby or with m touching me.


The above quote from Valma it is re written
This is exactly what I wrote directly from my email to him

Annette writes
“Thank you for the explanation around the energy. He did something’s I never wanted him to do regarding touching me, kissing my cheek, and holding my face in his hands and staring into my eyes directly for a long time. I felt a lot of pain. I was always just sitting there and on a break or in silence when he would approach me and do these things.”

Now compare that to Valma’s quote.

I am not going to cut and paste his email responses here because IT IS WRONG TO DO THIS.

But emailing it out...maybe so...

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: Valma ()
Date: May 05, 2019 03:16AM

AnnetteChappelle Wrote:
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> That is something that I wrote to James Swartz in
> an email exchange I had with him. I have all the
> original emails. This news article he has put up I
> was never asked if he could use my emails for it.
> He’s changed so much content it was initially hard
> for me to recognize it as my exchange with him.
>
> After these emails, where he wrote something
> entirely different. More like we should be
> compassionate not afraid or angry of m because “m
> can’t control his urges”...
>
> Alarm bells went off! Notice he doesn’t say that
> at all in his newsletter.
>
> Be careful around James Swartz. There was some
> reason batgap removed his videos as well which I
> saw on his website shiningworld.
>
> Why put down m unless to get his students to come
> to him?
>
> Why twist my email exchange. And I NEVER said I
> was “infatuated” with m, BTW...or some of the
> other things he writes.
>
> What a sad state of affairs. I thought I’d write
> him to ask about Advaita Vedanta and he asked me
> to share my story and then he published it. But
> not until he re-wrote it. What a jerk! First m and
> now him...
>
> He is UNCLEAN. BE CAREFUL OF HIM!

So sorry to hear that Annette. I did not realize all of this when i published the post. It seems everything is coming to the light. Oh my.. Thank you for being so open and straightforward.

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: zizlz ()
Date: May 05, 2019 03:18AM

Anette, you probably haven't read the contact page on James' site but it says there: "However, please understand that we totally respect your privacy and will not share your personal information with anyone. However, writing to us you agree to have the satsang posted on this website as it will be beneficial to others. If it is posted, we will carefully remove your name and other personal details."

>Be careful around James Swartz. There was some reason batgap removed his videos as well which I saw on his website shiningworld.

Apparently the Batgap interview was removed based on one anonymous email to Rick Archer. A bit scary how one anonymous accusation can ruin anyone's reputation nowadays. Anyone can make up an anonymous accusation.

I'd be interested in your original email exchange with James to see how much he altered your words.

Recently I attended a satsang with James and found it invaluable. I experienced him as a loving presence who doesn't desire anything from anybody. He reminded me of Rupert Spira in that way, who I've seen many times.

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: AnnetteChappelle ()
Date: May 05, 2019 03:27AM

I think a very personal detail not removed my friend was that I am a source of the Be article. Do you know any other?

I don’t feel by your response that I will share much else of what I know because you clearly find him a good teacher so enjoy.

You also like m from what you’ve said here so enjoy.

Rupert Spira is amazing though. We can agree there.

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: zizlz ()
Date: May 05, 2019 03:32AM

AnnetteChappelle Wrote:
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> You also like m from what you’ve said here so
> enjoy.

It's really amazing that you've come to that conclusion. I've been raising red flags about Mooji here and on other spots for months but I also acknowledge that there is some value in his teachings and somehow you manage to spin that into me being a Mooji supporter. This shows a serious lack of comprehension and makes me doubt your validity as a witness.

Anyway, I do admire your courage for speaking out about Mooji under your real name, I hope more will follow your example.



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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: AnnetteChappelle ()
Date: May 05, 2019 03:40AM

I didn’t say you were an “m supporter” I said you “also like m”

So tell me how my identity has been kept as you say James Swartz website says he will keep it if he says in it I am one of the Be anonymous sources?

Seems that I’m the only claiming this and I told him this and he know my name.

Maybe that is clear for you to see a violation of my confidence as well as that he didn’t say he would use my story for his teaching which is NOT what he wrote me and no I don’t share my emails with people who clearly support him as you have here.

Why would I want to help someone who already enjoys his teachings.

Look it’s simple.

I like teachers without baggage and if that means I never wake up so be it.

People who don’t mind baggage in my opinion drink poison milk. If the source (the teacher) is unclean, so are their words.

We differ. That’s all. No big deal.

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