Re: Byron Katie (the Work) and Mind Cleanse = Brain Wash
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: June 20, 2009 04:22AM

Meadow is right on the money.
There is so much information there, it will take a lot of time to go over all of it.
Notice the embedded commands right in their advertising blurbs, and how the Byron Katie Story is told in the images.

Byron Katie did do some stuff for cheaper or even "free" for a while, that is to build things up. Every group like this offers some stuff for "free", just like every fisherman puts a "free worm" on her fishing hook, to lure in the fishes to bite on the barbed-hook they can't escape from, so they can be reeled into the net, then gutted.

But of course, all that time, she was soliciting massive "donations" from people, so was still making a lot of money. Now they do both.

As far as Jenny McCarthy, that is standard operating procedure for these types of groups and Guru's. They troll for some celebrities, to try and gain some free advertising. But Jenny McCarthy was made famous from MTV and Playboy. She is not going to know anything about these types of methods, and is herself deeply involved in various New Age promotions.
If anything, Jenny McCarthy is ripe to fall completely under the spell of someone like Byron Katie, and if she is "producing" the event, Byron Katie has taken over and moved in.

Notice that every single mainstream cult has a few key celebs they use like this, Scientology, Kabbalah, etc. They treat the celebs totally different from "regular" people, as they go into the VIP stream, and arrive in limosines. If Jenny McCarthy involved in "producing" Byron Katie, then she could also be making some money herself off it, and it would cross-promote her own books.
These Guru's usually treat celebs with a completely different series of techniques, as its done in private.

Also, just for a start, notice the name of this new MIND CLEANSE process that Byron Katie is doing.

Byron Katie, Milton Erickson, Bandler NLP, Nested Loops, Mind Washing []

Notice that a long time ago, it was shown how Byron Katie was using the Washing Machine induction/story:
(text and analysis follows)
You see how obvious it is to anyone who takes a moment to reflect.

Mind is like the word Brain.
Cleanse, is about cleaning, washing, washing machine.
Mind Cleanse.
Mind Wash
Brain Wash.

Ain't making this stuff up folks. Its the real deal.
And they want to take it as far as they can take it. They seem to be going more and more overboard, as they are getting drunk with power.

Mind Cleanse, Byron Katie Coming in The clouds with power and glory
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: June 20, 2009 04:56AM

This Mind Cleanse with Byron Katie, looks like a DVD movie preview, narrated and produced by Jenny McCarthy that is coming out soon. This looks like one of those screenings where they test it before an audience.


The image on the movie poster tells everything. Byron Katie must have designed that image herself, as its similar to her other images, and has many meanings.

Up in the sky, where the sunlight is breaking throught the clouds, you see the words MIND CLEANSE with Byron Katie. So that is not too subtle.
Byron Katie is living up above the clouds just like "you know who"...the Big Guy/Gal.
But of course, like Byron Katie says in her books, she is "invisible".

and there is a dark shadow image of a middle-aged female, with her hands clasped in prayer worship, gazing up to God, who exists where the light is breaking through in the image, which is the EXACT horizontal center of the poster where the name BYRON KATIE is written. This woman is praying to Byron Katie.
So the image is clear. Byron Katie and God are One. Same deal.

And in the New Testament, the 2nd Coming of Christ...
Guess what? Christ was also "coming in the clouds"...
"At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory".

(hopefully others can dig up some other bible quotes about the 2nd Coming and the "clouds")
Search Google for these words...

Jesus coming in the clouds

....just like Byron Katie is in this poster. So that means Byron Katie is still the 2nd Coming, and she is invisible like she says in her books, and is coming on the clouds with power and glory.
These people are very dangerous.

Notice also, it has more meanings.
Clouds, are also seen as Depression, grey skies, and Byron Katie is shown as the "light" that breaks through.

But most tellingly, its a similar image to another little movie called Triumph of The Will by Leni Riefenstahl. []
Everyone should rent that movie immediately, and watch the mastery of propaganda in movies.
The "star" of that movie, also comes down from the clouds, at the beginning of the movie in a long sequence.
QUOTE; "The film opens with shots of the clouds above the city, and then moves through the clouds to float above the assembling masses below, with the intention of portraying beauty and majesty of the scene".

And remember, Byron Katie has used the Nazi imagery, over and over.

Byron Katie: Nazi's burning Jewish babies was the work of "God" []

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/20/2009 04:59AM by The Anticult.

Re: Byron Katie (the Work) and Eckhart Tolle Legit??
Posted by: helpme2times ()
Date: June 20, 2009 05:20AM

Cross-posting Dave's experiences with Byron Katie's "work":

[[url=,67778,73098#msg-73098]Dave's Story[/url]]

Re: Byron Katie (the Work) and Mind Cleanse = Brain Wash
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: June 20, 2009 05:25AM

That is amazing. Is that really Byron Katie writing, or has it been edited by her husband? That is a different style. See how she is even trying to tone-down how she writes?

Maybe its because, finally, finally, people are starting to wake-up around her, and see what she has been doing to them for years.
QUOTE "overcome all "cult" ideas and mind silliness".

That pathetic cop-out ain't gonna fly.
Notice how she says "mind" silliness. She left out one word. Mind-Control, which is what she does. And its not silliness. She is trying to use an overgeneralization to get people to dismiss the criticism of her methods.

The dishonesty in that post is really almost unbelievable.
Blaming Jenny McCarthy, when there is no way in hell she did not design that, and have 100% approval of everything.
Four innocent questions? What a absurd joke. That really is a pathetic response, and it doesn't even sound like her.

She always has her fallback position.
Playing the idiot savant, who is innocent, and has a "heart of gold".
She knows that most of her customers/followers actually do have "hearts of gold", so she wants them to think that she is just like them.
Look at the words she uses...heart of
and would never do anything INTENTIONALLY to hurt The Work...that is a good one.

Please keep us updated on these posts from BK, or maybe its a new BK Version 6.0.
Notice the celeb name-dropping.

And here is BK's own response to the comments on her poster by her followers:


Wow, I can see it from your perspective, thanks, Peter. I'll talk to Jenny. It is her company's production from start to finish. We'll see what can be done. She has a heart of gold and getting The Work out is her heart's desire. Thanks to Alanis Morrisette, and others, we have great music included as well. A lot of dear hearts and dollars went into this Peace movement. What title do you suggest? I don't know if it will change what is and this is a really good conversation.

Do you really think the poster itself is "creepy"? Aren't we funny. What do you suggest to replace it? I am laughing so hard as I write this and consider the "human" collective mind, and at the same time I can see your point. After hearing from you I am really hoping that these four innocent questions/turnaround combined with the substance in the film as a whole will overcome all "cult" ideas and mind silliness. Wish you were all here to see the preview. I haven't seen it yet. I realize that it does affect all of us. I love your feedback and wouldn't do anything to ever hurt us/The Work, intentionally. Thank you for guidance.

Those of you that can make it, see you Saturday at 4:30 in Ojai. xoxokt

Re: Byron Katie (the Work) and Mind Cleanse = Brain Wash
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: June 20, 2009 05:31AM

Triumph of The Will by Leni Riefenstahl (Cloud images)

Re: Byron Katie, Mind Cleanse, Jenny McCarthy, Oprah
Posted by: helpme2times ()
Date: June 20, 2009 05:41AM

The Anticult
This Mind Cleanse with Byron Katie, looks like a DVD movie preview, narrated and produced by Jenny McCarthy that is coming out soon. This looks like one of those screenings where they test it before an audience.

I feel a bit silly posting this, as it smacks of Melanie Griffith's character in the movie "Working Girl". (A refresher: the movie co-starred Harrison Ford, Alec Baldwin, and Joan Cusack. It was a big hit.)

Griffiths' character, Tess McGill, extracted business ideas from newspaper gossip columns.

Similar to Tess McGill, I've just read a gossip item which is allegedly about some celebrities who've been discussed in this thread. The info just might be true, and it could turn out to be relevant to this thread.

This is the item, from


Actress A and Actress B each wanted their own talk show. Not surprising, since each is known for being pretty funny - as well as very vocal about their individual causes. Actress A sought the endorsement and collaborative skills of a media mogul who has had great success in this genre, and was well on her way to getting a show into production. Actress B, who is as kooky as Actress A, got wind of this, and began talking to the mogul too. At some point, Actress B convinced the mogul that Actress A was too mouthy and scary about her cause, and that audiences would be completely turned off. It worked. The mogul unexpectedly pulled the plug on Actress A, and decided to back Actress B instead, both financially and creatively. Actress A is absolutely furious. However, knowing that talking badly about the mogul or Actress B would be a bad career move, expect her to cheer on both as Actress B’s show goes on air.
[[url=]Two Actress Fighting Over One Talk Show[/url]]

Another site, Alt.Gossip Celebrities Blind Item Rehash, proposes the identities of these three women as follows:

Actress A: Kirstie Alley
Actress B: Jenny McCarthy
Mogul: Oprah

I'm inclined to believe this!

Re: Byron Katie (the Work) and Eckhart Tolle Legit??
Posted by: Meadow ()
Date: June 20, 2009 05:53AM

Oh yes, this is definitely BK herself. A lot of the things she says are actually turnarounds. Her comment tells me that she is actually very upset with the whole thing, especially when she says she is laughing out loud. She also does several things at once: when she says she can see it from Peter's perspective, she is agreeing with him. So in fact, she is not happy now with what Jenny McCarthy did, but just in case Jenny reads or hears about this, she says that she has a heart of gold.
The fact that she calls it four innocent questions, means that she has realized that people are noticing the poster is not so innocent at all.
Her last statement is interesting, : "I would never do anything to ever hurt us/the work intentionally", why would she even put that in there? Turned around it reads: I would do anything to ever hurt you/the work....

This is how some responded to BK's post :


hank you Katie for writing here... and showing your care for our feedback


..and thanks Katie for modeling good communication


Yes, creepy poster.... very Sci Fi.

And what image would work for The Work? Katie's face of course, and that's been done. I like the idea that there is some image that would represent the four questions and turnarounds...., the asking of them, the mind's response to them, the freedom that is beyond them...

Mountains, Clear Skies, Flowers, Nature.....people talking, intimacy, connection, freedom, truth

And it's mysterious, unknown, and undoing, there is surrender, peace and love in it...

Maybe a figure - silhouetted in the shadows and mist of mind, the light of truth dawning and clutching hands together in gratitude for all that's left...

Maybe it's not a creepy poster... Or maybe the image just needs a different lighting, setting and emphasis.

This last one again illustrates how brain washed her people are and how they love to cater to her.

They are just modelling her with the flattery. One of BK's main manipulation techniques is that she will smother you in sugar. People seem to love it, which is probably why there are always so many volunteers around. They just love the crumbs that are being tossed to them.

Re: Byron Katie (the Work) and Love-Bombing
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: June 20, 2009 06:10AM

yes, the sugar-stuff is verbal Love-Bombing.
There are a lot of love-starved people on this planet, so its another common technique BK uses.
Most cultish groups are Love-Bombers.

Something about this smacks of another rebranding of Byron Katie.
There were 2 other "producers" listed for this film.
"Produced by Jenny McCarthy, Stan Kurt and Chelsea Low".

So its interesting they try to pin criticisms on Jenny McCarthy? Not smart. Expect that to be backtracked and retracted. Jenny is apparently getting her own New Age TV show platform, as mentioned.
There is no way in hell Jenny McCarthy had designed that movie poster...puhlease.
Its gotta be the same person who designed the Byron Katie "BROKEN HEART" logo, with Byron Katie in the center. (see near the bottom of the post).
It is a BROKEN HEART, wrapped around the word KATIE, with the word KATIE driving right into the center of that broken heart. The broken heart is FUSED with the word KATIE.
That is Byron Katie's entire program in one single image. The broken emotional heart of "the people" FUSED, dependent on, and in orbit around Katie

and why would BK get so upset, that her movie poster image was criticized from her own people? Because she thought it was clever and loved it. She posted it on her own websites.
She loves being represented as God coming down from the clouds and being prayed to. After all, Stephen Mitchell said Byron Katie is the center of the New Age, right?
They have her photo on a altar in their house, right?

It may be that the other clumsy techniques being used so far, are from Stephen Mitchell, and that other Mary Poppins guy...her agent? Michael Katz?
Those two are very amateur in their methods. []

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/20/2009 06:16AM by The Anticult.

Re: Byron Katie (the Work) and Eckhart Tolle Legit??
Posted by: helpme2times ()
Date: June 20, 2009 06:17AM

Wow, this thread is really heating up. Great stuff, Meadow et al.!

Re: Byron Katie (the Work) and Love-Bombing
Posted by: Meadow ()
Date: June 20, 2009 06:28AM

The Anticult
It may be that the other clumsy techniques being used so far, are from Stephen Mitchell, and that other Mary Poppins guy...her agent? Michael Katz?
Those two are very amateur in their methods. []

Or perhaps it was done by the people that were responsible for the trailer for 'the work on the web' program ( They have a real sense for horror combined with drama. You can find more about them on [].

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