As to just SOME of their connections.... Phil and his other boys were at the stripper-filled bachelor party for Fieldy (of KORN). I have saved the pictures as proof. They also run their own clothing and music stores online in which they have had girls barely clad, posing with guns and in very suggestive manners. Definitely God-like behavior.
They also have videos of them running with the Mongels (this biker group has fought the Hell's Angels for a very long time.... do you wonder now about the fight with Hell's Angels?) If you are interested, it takes some searching (google, Set Free site, personal facebook, myspace and twitter sites and Youtube) but you can find them. The odd thing is.... they almost don't seem to care.. they themselves post the pictures and videos. It boggles the mind. And yet, they have followers who rabidly (foaming at the mouth) proclaim the 'godly works' they are out there doing.
Whenever I've seen people question the many comments of corruption here and claim The ROC is upstanding, I pause and I go back to the TOP TEN SIGNS listing (found on the Rick Ross site.. or pretty much anywhere from psychologists specializing in cults. (see below, I've posted it for reference. These are good/healthy questions.) I also have a cousin who is a psychologist who specializes in helping children who have escaped the psychological damage done by cults and corrupt churches. Let me tell you, they are NEVER fully mentally healthy and trusting again. They will, in the best case scenario, always have trust issues for the remainder of their lives. That's the best case scenario.) Ok, top ten list....
Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.
Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
Followers feel they can never be "good enough".
The group/leader is always right.
The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.
Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.
Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.
Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".
Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.
Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.
Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.
A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.
Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader.
Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.
Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided.
Ten signs of a safe group/leader.
A safe group/leader will answer your questions without becoming judgmental and punitive.
A safe group/leader will disclose information such as finances and often offer an independently audited financial statement regarding budget and expenses. Safe groups and leaders will tell you more than you want to know.
A safe group/leader is often democratic, sharing decision making and encouraging accountability and oversight.
A safe group/leader may have disgruntled former followers, but will not vilify, excommunicate and forbid others from associating with them.
A safe group/leader will not have a paper trail of overwhelmingly negative records, books, articles and statements about them.
A safe group/leader will encourage family communication, community interaction and existing friendships and not feel threatened.
A safe group/leader will recognize reasonable boundaries and limitations when dealing with others.
A safe group/leader will encourage critical thinking, individual autonomy and feelings of self-esteem.
A safe group/leader will admit failings and mistakes and accept constructive criticism and advice.
A safe group/leader will not be the only source of knowledge and learning excluding everyone else, but value dialogue and the free exchange of ideas.
Don't be naïve, develop a good BS Detector.
You can protect yourself from unsafe groups and leaders by developing a good BS detector. Check things out, know the facts and examine the evidence. A safe group will be patient with your decision making process. If a group or leader grows angry and anxious just because you want to make an informed and careful decision before joining; beware.
well i havent been on for a while nice to see some people responding i was thinking how some one could be so prideful and not admit to them self that they got hornswoggled by the ROC and just leave that place
lol well i came on here because i got contacted today by someone from the ROC trying to probe me for information asking me if any one has been saying anything these people just cant stop can they
then they asked if i new anything bad about a certain person
then they go on to say that they heard this person is talkin bad about the ROC and they heard they did something bad along time ago when they where there at the ROC and wanted to no if it was true
can you freakin beleive the balls on these cult members ? what makes me mad is the person they are talkin about never talks about that place when ever its brought up they always change the subject so I let this person no today that they contacted me and the person just laughed.
they said" they must be really bored or really worried if there worried about me , Cause I could crush that place."
they go on to say " These guys's at the Roc have it so protected from outsiders that eventually they will destroy themselves from within."I have tryed to get this person to get on here but they wont they feel eventually the place will fall eventually because eventually it all comes out G has shown he has been caught before and he will again but honestly he will get away with it ."
think about it there fam gets light sentences but the other guys dont now one brother relocated to virginia hmm.. maybe someone made a deal. Why leave california to virginia ?
then my friend really let the poop hit the fan when they said this " Look at it like this G and his fam are hooked up to politician 's and hollywood his cousin won biggest loser for example and phils church had famous actors there and musicians o.k now lets say your accused of commiting a crime the politician , the police chief and city council member's ETC... that support your orginization have to worry about voter's , So what do you do make it go away ."
this person went on to say that its just what they think but never told no one that till that moment but made it clear it was just a thory not a fact and that if they want have G call them but we no that will nver happen LOL
but they basicly dont care about that place and says people do ask them stuff but they never tell them cause if they did then they should tell on everything and G and them dont want that so they say nothing