I think that David McKay is little more than a small-time pimp, a glorified con-man, a child molester/spiritual pervert/chickenhawk type who does what he does legally and that he isn't even really a very good "cult leader." He is crude, amateurish, and unoriginal. But all that does not make him less dangerous. He's also sociopathic, mean-spirited and extraordinarily cruel. The blunt weapon is more damaging than the sharp one, though it is also slower and not as efficient.
My position, simply put, is that DM is basically a bad guy.
And I guess that I always just took it for granted that you do too, I assumed so. Are you saying that you don't think of him that way?
You have mastered the DM style of putting words in people's mouths, exaggerating things, and playing up the histrionics, apostate. Also I see DM-style oversimplifications of my position. I really don't think you are as far removed from DM as you seem to think.
For one thing, I never said that I "see nothing wrong" with DM's teachings. I said that it is not what he says
that bothers me as much as what he does
. So where does "see nothing wrong" come from?
And I did not say anything about "cowardly ex-members." I said that IMO some of the ex-members were all talk and were being cowards about confronting DM and the situation more directly.
Also, I have actually been very critical of DM's teachings. I have actually stated the opposite of "see nothing wrong."
So your statement in that respect is bulls**t. Where are you coming from on that?
You have never liked me or my involvement in this and have always given me s**t. Aren't you just trying to smear me now that you have nothing else to say, no other reasoned defense, so you impugn PE's and my motives and assume the worst about us? Just go for the trusty old ad hominem
, right? We're trying to help, man. It can't be all on your terms or all on mine, we both know that.
We are on the same team, the same side as it were, and need to compromise with one another. Let's not let this degenerate into "us" vs. "them." There is no reason for us to bicker and is not a personal matter between we two.
All I said was that at the end of the day, we're talking about doing something to stop DM and we are accomplishing that, moving closer to that goal, producing evidence. You, sir, are talking and talking some more, trying to silence us, criticizing me, putting me down, and making fun of what we are trying to do, but at least we are really accomplishing something toward the stated goal. We actually have a good chance of (basically) shutting him down. What exactly is it that is your goal in this endeavor?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/23/2008 06:33AM by zeuszor.