Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Date: July 22, 2008 11:10AM
First of all, I meant no disrespect nor any offense to anybody in my earlier post. It was my intention only to voice my concern and get a few things off of my my chest, so to speak.
Apostate, you are right in your point about my comment about "damaged" ex-members. I can see how that would come across as a condescending and/or cynical thing to write.
Look, I am not going to do the line-by-line response thing. That gives me a headache.
Somebody asked me for my ideas on practical steps that others could take, measures that go beyond mere discussion. Hmmm...you know, realistically, I think that probably all that can be done, in some form or fashion has been or is being done. All it is now is just a matter of time. But PE and myself, between the two of us, have produced a lot of documentary evidence to the end of exposing DM and his background, catching him in lies and fabrications, we've fleshed out extensive biographical data on DM and his consort, in other words, I have talked a lot of talk but I (with a lot of help from others ) have also produced something that I think has wound up significantly exposing DM for the pathological lair he is; we can prove that virtually EVERY SINGLE THING that he writes or says publicly with respect to his background and biography is a lie or distortion of the truth and we have evidence, stuff on paper to prove it. I have talked a lot of stuff and have gone overboard at times with it, I admit, but I have also produced, I have a lot to show for all of my talk and I have showed only part of it to the public. I have put my name and my face on the line for this. Most of the people here are anonymous. I put my actions where my mouth is/was where this is concerned. So please, give me just a little credit. I have talked, and I have produced. All I see here is a lot of talk talk talk but you have nothing to show for it, that I or anybody else in the public can see. I wrote a long time ago that I was gonna go full-tilt boogie in my investigation and we have accomplished alot in the last couple of years. Apostate never has liked my presense here and has repeatedly told me that he wishes that I'd shut up, but I have produced more evidence against DM and his group than any of the exmembers put together, you gotta give me that. I think that I/we have done a lot of damage to his organization, with or without your help or cooperation. But we need to know more, somebody needs to put together a more comprehensive biography of DM and his consort, more detailed research on the JCs and their early years, etc., I'd like to see more stuff like that fleshed out, and only xJCs would know alot about that kind of thing, the early years of DM and the "community" and such. We have been trying to accomplish something like that for months. It's a good way of predicting future scenarios and stuff. No cooperation, no good background data from most of the Xmembers though, as far as I know. A book would be a good idea in this respect. I like the idea of helping to raise funds for the Johnsons' legal defense, too, but will not help to raise a penny that will be given to any member of the JCs. I'd generally like to see a greater level of cooperation between the xJCs and the researchers and others working to investigate and bring DM's corruption and hypocrisy to light. We need a greater level of trust and cooperation in general. My goal, my agenda, is to stop DM from hurting more people. Sometimes, I am not sure just exactly what the goals of some of the participants here are. Thank you for your consideration.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/22/2008 11:13AM by zeuszor.