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apostate
Do you agree with Dave's assessment that you have "cleverly coaxed" us somewhere in this discussion? Is that what you are doing? I would be disappointing if this was the case. So what say you?
What I have done is ask questions whose answers I was interested in hearing. I stated my reason for coming to ask questions in my first post. I don't have a list of questions designed to take you guys down a specific path or even any specific paths in mind that I'd like to go down. The questions I ask are triggered by your last response. The reason I asked about everyones feelings about a group like the Jesus Christians but without Dave in it (something I'm still interested in hearing about from the other ex-members) was because I noticed all of the items in your list of problems have to do with Dave, and almost all of them even start with the word "Dave". What I have stated above is all that I'm doing. I wouldn't describe it as clever. I would describe it as asking any question that happens to pop into my head because I'm interested in your answer. I am not trying to manipulate or even change anyones opinion about anything (I have serious doubts changing someones opinion is even possible via an internet forum). I am getting more credit than I deserve.
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Josh, do you believe we are ATTACKING the JC's because of what they believe? My responses to you have been general and can be applied to ANY group or religion.
I can answer to only my own experience on this board so I limit my comments to that. Also I'd like to treat each of you sperately since different people have, of course, said different things.
Apostate, I don't remeber you saying things to me while I was on this message board that I would consider threatening specifically to the JCs because of what they believe. My impression of what you have said is that you think Dave is a very bad leader and the other people in the group wrongly accept him as being authoritative. Also you find the work they do (proselytizing) dangerous, but that is not specific to the Jesus Christians it is a statement about all proselytizers. You are right the things you have said that show your oposition to most of the beliefs of the JCs are really blanket statements you could apply to alot of religious groups.
I haven't heard back from Malcom yet on his opinion of the JCs without Dave.
matilda said along with Dave she'd like to also remove his writings and teachings. I understood that to mean she was against the Jesus Christians religious beliefs as a whole. I could also see how I could be misinterpreting that so that's why I asked for her clarification.
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WE would like to close him down forever, dismantle his present "team" of poor, misled followers and have them all come over to our side.
This quote seems the most easy to classify as an attack on the group to me. Now that I read back the whole post I notice Dogmother didn't give the specific reason for wanting to dismantle the group. I had just asked a question about if a Daveless group would be acceptable and so at the time I assumed this meant "No it wouldn't be." I may have been wrong though, Dogmother can correct me.
cultmalleus said he didn't think a Daveless group would be sustainable and voiced his opposition to an endtimes focus from any religion so this was also not directed only at the Jesus Christians but a much larger group.
As I went back through the posts I notice that my answer to Ricks question has now shown up back on page 58. Thank you Rick for posting that. It is frustrating when my posts don't show up, but since you have now put it up I wanted to acknowlege publicly that you did post it after I asked nicely.