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20 days ago
George x
fuck budhists fuck tolle fuck neoroscience fuck all this shit. when your mind relaxes it s simple as that it relaxes. Grow the fuck up "spirituality" is for losers
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20 days ago
George x
QuoteSahara71 [/Of course, ET probably believes most of his own bullshit, due to his own egomania. that was what was tricking me for a long time. i mean "why he says the things he says" "there must be true" or " he speaks because he knows the truth". But then i started to realize that maybe he is not being charlatan on purpose and that he just believes his own
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20 days ago
George x
Eckart tolle is a dangerous "spiritualist". I have been a NAIVE victim to his words. It was like a void, like hell. To those of you in here that follow him you are propably naive and hypnotized enough to do so. There are things and people that are dangerous in this world. But know this: THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN. tolle is preaching like he is saying something brand new. "new consiousn
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3 months ago
facet
Hi Gary, Yes it’s true you were and are never alone on this topic, neither was I, but it can feel like it as it’s so isolating.. unless it’s someone else who’s fallen in too. So many people get wrapped into it, not difficult especially since the internet gave the ability to people like this for more visibility, and to any age who have the ability to search the web, access YouTube or use soc
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3 months ago
George x
Hi Facet, it really feels nice getting a reply. that tells me i was never alone and there are many like me that got through tough shit because of.. well.. our naiveness. And that is something for me for real because you see this kind of staff are hard to talk with people. I didn t know that about Hitler and that he would make the audience wait before speaking. Is seems like intersting info. fo
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3 months ago
facet
Hi George, It is so good to read your post and see that you are out of it all, I can relate to what you say so much. Cannot believe that I used to sit and give these people time, space in my head, and money.. but I did. When you said QuoteHITLERS WAS on of them..he is a good paradigm ..He wasn t for good wasn t he? He was talking for a new earth TOO, A NEW WORLD MADE IN HIS OWN CRITERIA PER
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
3 months ago
George x
Thank you for your reply. I just wannted to state that i don t care if they see as ego or not. Our ego is a natural part of our beings . It s just what it is . it s there for a reason . Don t buy that "egolless" bullshit. NOONE is egoless. All natural beings we have ego of some kind. Humans, dogs, cats... all. It s our maturity with our ego that s the thing.
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3 months ago
George x
the last comment of mine was going for zizlz .
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3 months ago
George x
we are not on the same sync here man. Don t reply to me again. I am out of that staff generally . If you want to keep going with the eastern bullshit sure it s your right.
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3 months ago
Gaja
Hi, thank You George so much for your post. I can relate so much. Some gurus and teachers see us as ego and they send this critical, hate perspective, and we tend to identify with their perspective. So we start this insane drive toward nothingness, being nothing and even niglecting our being human. I was there, I abused myself, I didn't care for myself, I was frustated, I felt not loved, w
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
3 months ago
George x
Hi again. After a whole year+ i got a notification from rick ross (it didn t feel good seeing it but anyways) so with the opportunity i am here to state that i feel A LOT better. and people that got through similar staff like i did know this : THERE IS A WAY OUT. It s painful. But there is. The most important is to set sail away FROM ALL THIS NEW AGE GURUS BULLSHIT. Have the intention, set sail
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3 months ago
Dandelion
Brainwashed90 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was going through a rough patch in my life when > I picked up the almighty Power of Now... > ...Does anyone have any advice for someone > who is trying to get out of this state? I feel > like my mind is not functioning. I can't believe I > bought all his bull shit! that I am just like
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12 months ago
Gaja
About social connections... I red few spiritual books, and I'm being fascinated with life of Ramana Maharishi. I wish I could find what Maharishi found, or Krishnamurti(who was extremly independent), or Eckhart Tolle who for years after his shift in consciousness was with no close relationships in his life, but he was so happy, and immersed in inner bliss. What about Maharishi, who
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1 year ago
shamrock
QuotezizlzIt leads to the realization that form is no different and no less real than formlessness. That’s a great way of articulating it.
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1 year ago
zizlz
> But I have to say, that since I respect myself, I avoid company of people who make me feel not well. If I can remove myself from situation that doesn't feel well, then why not. That seems wise! The thought-made pain you refer to is only a part of a more generalized "field of pain" that seems to apply to every living creature, even plant life. I think it comes with being
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1 year ago
Gaja
came back to you zizlz, because I was contemplating now, compassion. In the past I believed love is pity. When I saw someone sad, closed down, not liked by most, isolated, I was thinking how to come closer, and how to save such a one. For most of my life I had huge pain body. I was feeling everyone around me, and I was very unhappy within, and pretending all is well outside, really I could
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1 year ago
zizlz
QuoteGaja You know what, I do not even like thoughts. I love reality, being in the moment. I will go for a walk in the forest. I feel like - thinking is not so much fun. Have a nice day, much of noticing the moment and miracle of life, and love yourself people. You have a nice day too! I probably don't need to tell you this but just as a public service announcement: be careful with negati
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1 year ago
Gaja
zizlz Wrote: > > I hope Tolle is right that our present way of > relating to thought is a transient phase in our > evolution, and that we evolve into a post-thought > state. That doesn't mean we no longer think but > that we're no longer deluded by thought _________________________________ I I agree with you. Maybe E Tolle is not thinking, is peace itsel
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1 year ago
zizlz
I'm glad that Eckhart Tolle has a positive effect on you. Some people, like Andy (who wrote the opening post), seem to get ego-phobia or mind-phobia from listening to Tolle, which IMO is linked to shortcomings in his teachings. But of course there are more aspects to his teachings, some of which may be helpful for some people. I guess just like a vest, a teacher can fit one person and not an
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1 year ago
Gaja
That's fine, it's interesting topic. It might be true what you said about shame and guilt. In my family (in those times, I can observe it) little children are being taught shame if they cannot do poo on their own, or eat by themselves, or do something properly in the opinion of "adults" - it is like, their ability to function is build on shame and of course fear - do not g
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1 year ago
zizlz
...just wanted to add: of course a post-thought humanity could only function if (a large part of) humanity has transcended egotism, as I think would be the case if they collectively achieve awakening stage 2 (embodiment), a state in which people are naturally compassionate (see one of my earlier posts in this thread). After all, a society of uncontrollable people could only function if they don&#
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1 year ago
zizlz
>How is it possible, that when thought is believed is causing people pain, or so much trouble ? When thought is believed, that means the conceptual content of the thought is experienced as reality itself, to a large extent. It's like looking at a map and believing the map to be the territory, forgetting almost completely that there's a greater reality outside of the map. It makes
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1 year ago
Gaja
Activity can happen in the now, in the present moment. I can slice tomatoes, banana, I can eat, ride a bike, dance, or clean house, I wanted to say also, to have sex, but sex is not approved by enlightened beings. You may eat, dance, clean, go to work, but sex is not required(a little irony) and be very present. In fact realization would be, this is not "me" who is active, activity is h
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1 year ago
shamrock
QuoteSahara71 A friend of mine once tried to 'live in the now' for a period of several weeks and everyone quickly became frustrated with her because nothing was done and everyone else had to pick up the slack and it was as annoying as hell. That's interesting. The mindlessness E.T. advocates is like the condition of an infant. It makes sense that all the adults around such a per
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1 year ago
zizlz
Sahara71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A friend of mine once tried to 'live in the > now' for a period of several weeks and > everyone quickly became frustrated with her > because nothing was done and everyone else had to > pick up the slack and it was as annoying as hell. > I suppose Tolle would say "let other > peopl
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1 year ago
Sahara71
Hi Everyone, I read one of Tolle's books years ago - but I can't remember which one it was. I thought it was quite interesting, but right towards the end of the book, I was left asking myself "What is the practical application for all this stuff?" How do you apply these 'teachings' to everyday life? There was a question and answer section at the end of the book
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1 year ago
shamrock
A quick search takes you to the Cult Education Institute thread "Eckhart Tolle -- Comments From Someone who Knows Him." The original post was by Wanderer77, who apparently knew him 25 or 30 years ago, before he became famous. She characterizes him from her point of view as: QuoteWanderer77 An extremely, and I want to say, dangerously isolated individual, who has become worse,
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1 year ago
antman
Hey Andy, I, like you, have come to the conclusion that Eckhart’s “teachings” are not for me. I will try to put my experiences into a nutshell- I read the Power of Now for the first time when I was 21. I was going through a very messy breakup with a girl that I thought was the “one”. Dealing with loss of my best friend, and grandfather, Eckhart’s book definitely helped me look at the though
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1 year ago
zizlz
This Guardian article is interesting for understanding Mooji's psychological wounds that made him take such an escapist approach of spirituality: In two posts in a thread about Eckhart Tolle, I've expanded on the mechanism behind this escapist approach of spirituality, which I've suffered from myself (first post, second post). Writing about it here over the last few years has b
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1 year ago
zizlz
Following up on my previous post about why especially narcissistic and psychologically troubled people become problematic spiritual teachers after an awakening experience: I think it's important to add that if deep psychological wounds play a role in triggering the awakening experience, this opens up a tempting opportunity for escapism. During the awakening, you see that you never were th
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