Their location is Webb House, South Lodge & Land, Victoria Avenue, Crewe, CW2 7SQ. They bought the Webb House in Crewe. In late 2000s the cult leader Hashem together with his friend McGowen who is part of the cult, infiltrated the Raelian movement and made lies about them trying to extort them for money if they don't want the footage posted. US court ruled in favour of the Raelians s
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Anyone wanting to know the truth about Claude Vorilhon (aka RAEL) and his raelian cult should read this free ebook. Rael's Secret - The Suppressed History of the Raelian Movement It opened my eyes and it might open yours too. This guy needs to be convicted of fraud and put behind bars.
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Thanks, Sunny99, yes, that worked. Interesting (and so demoralizing) what his wife went through. And those poor kids! Marie-Paul says: 'I thought I had married a fairly ordinary, if slightly egotistical, man. Not a freak. At first I believed that Claude really thought what he was saying was true, but over the years I began to think the whole Raelian movement was a trick to have more sex a
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I've been reading a lot on them. Yes, they are really out there in their beliefs. I have found a LOT of information on weird stuff that they teach or do, but it is difficult to find people who claim to have been "brainwashed" by them, or who had difficulty leaving the group. Most of the articles out there paint them as eccentric but fun-loving and liberal, making them seem
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From Wikipedia: "There is continuing debate on whether Raëlians can be identified as a cult. The government of France classifies the Raelian Movement as a "secte" (French word for cult). However, according to Glenn McGee, the associate director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Virginia, part of the sect is a cult while the other part is a commercial website that
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In my opinion the group fits the criteria of a destructive cult. See The group is run by Vorilhon, who seems to be an absolute dictator. The Raelian group bases its beliefs essentially on Vorilhon's supernatural claims. See This is the subsection about the Raelians and Vorilhon.
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Some Sex With Your Clone Perhaps? Documentary filmmakers and Raelian infiltrators Joe McGowen (left) and Abdullah Hashem (right) pose with Raelian bishop and Clonaid CEO Brigitte Boisselier at a Raelian convention in Las Vegas in May.
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"The estranged former wife of Vorilhon characterised him as a 'cult leader' and claimed he brought groups of female Raëlians home and held orgies which affected the children from an early age." , Mail on Sunday/January 12, 2003.
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All of the evidence so for points to the fact that the Raelians simply fabricated about doing anything with cloning, just to get media attention. Another fraud. www.clonaid.com But of course there could be a mentally disturbed person, who happens to be a scientist, who gets lured into the Raelian scam. Or maybe just a mentally disturbed scientist who wants to experiment with live human
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So in fact the Raelians do present a threat to the public, they are not benign. Who knows, some disturbed Raelians could hire some crazy scientist and be illegally experimenting with human cloning using Raelian female followers as live HUMAN subjects, which would be a crime against humanity Or the crazy scientist could already be a Raelian
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QuoteThey figured out very quick they didn't want that kind of trouble, so immediately launched a counterattack, as can be seen with hundreds of posts by the Raelians on the internet to take the focus off themselves on that issue. This strategy has been nicknamed 'astroturfing'. Or (to mix metaphors) its simliar to what happens when crabgrass is seeded into a garden. The weed
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There are authorities in Switzerland who see the dangers and threat to the public with the Raelian sect. Swiss high courts upheld the ban, and even the European Court upheld it. So in fact the Raelians do present a threat to the public, they are not benign. Who knows, some disturbed Raelians could hire some crazy scientist and be illegally experimenting with human cloning using Raelian femal
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Many sects use sex as a lure. They also keep the prices low for basic membership, and then extract the serious money in other ways. The Raelians were in very serious trouble previously for reports of sexual activities involving children. They figured out very quick they didn't want that kind of trouble, so immediately launched a counterattack, as can be seen with hundreds of posts by
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I have worked as a chef for 30 years. The raeliens have come to our establishment a couple times for their retreats. They are mostly polite and easy going. They like all their food separated. For instance, instead of making a salad they want the components of the salad separated to choose what they want. They have dinner in the dark nights and cross dressing/dress up party's. There is a lot
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Hi all, I'm a journalist working on a story about growing up in groups like the Raelian Movement, exploring notions of coming of age and rites of passage. If you grew up with Raelian parents, or if you are a Raelian with kids of your own, I would love to speak to you. Feel free to reply here or send me a private message if you would like to help out. Thanks a lot, Luke.
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Hi, I'm a journalist working on an article about growing up in groups like the Raelian Movement, focussing on notions of coming of age and rites of passage. If you grew up with Raelian parents, or if you are Raelian with kids of your own, I would love to speak to you. Feel free to reply here or send me a private message if you can help out. Much appreciated. Luke.
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QuotecorboyRegarding ZM, I have not yet found any reliable descriptions or complaints that ZM fits the criteria given by Robert J Lifton, the psychiatrist whose studies represent the standard for assessing these matters. The information we have so far is the following: 1) ZM groups deleted by German equivalent of Facebook. What I think is telling is how little sensitivity the discussants h
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Quotecorboyhttp://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?12,98081,98374#msg-98374 QuoteZM, I have not yet found any reliable descriptions or complaints that ZM fits the criteria given by Robert J Lifton, the psychiatrist whose studies represent the standard for assessing these matters. The information we have so far is the following: 1) ZM groups deleted by German equivalent of Facebook. Wha
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Regarding ZM, I have not yet found any reliable descriptions or complaints that ZM fits the criteria given by Robert J Lifton, the psychiatrist whose studies represent the standard for assessing these matters. The information we have so far is the following: 1) ZM groups deleted by German equivalent of Facebook. What I think is telling is how little sensitivity the discussants had with Ger
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Zeitgeist Movement has been described as the activist and communications arm of the Venus Project. Triodos is listed as assisting the Venus Project. Ergo, ZM is the activist and communitions arm of an entity being assisted by Triodos Bank, itself rooted in a secretive spin off of Theosophy called Anthroposophy, whose founder, Rudolf Steiner, had his own wrap around vision of a total society
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Fresco and the Raelians Started here Googled Fresco and Raelian Got this "Jacques Fresco Honorary Guide of the Raelian Movement Rael has bestowed the title of Honorary Guide of the Raelian Movement to Jacques Fresco. Mr. Fresco is 92 years old and was born in the USA. He is a self-taught scientist, architect and inventor who has also been deeply committed his whole li
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Quotejust-googlingQuoteVera CityJ.C.~ sigh... this is just nutters! Try reading my posts more carefully, or rather, refrain from reading into my posts things that are not there and stop making false implications about what I write! Find your straw man somewhere else. She ain't here. I think I would have to agree with Vera City on this argument... The movie "Reli
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Hey Sparky--the Raelians are offering cloning at a reduced rate if you agree to go public--but sorry no promises of riches.
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Yes of course, until they have the DNA test to prove a human clone is real, then they are simply liars and con-artists, like the Raelians. And if cloning a human is illegal, anyone who claims they did it, should be investigated, just like any other crime. Why aren't these people being investigated? But notice how Rael has insulated himself from the cloning claims? Rael has said he has
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The Anticult, obviously I was being "ironic". Cloning is a fool's paradise at this time in our culture and history. I think "Human Cloners" should consider freezing their dead bodies with cryonics since the two "sciences" have equal validity (cloning perhaps has a bit more since animals have apparently been cloned). Want me to believe, "human cloners&q
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This guy is probably just doing a political stunt. One assumes he will lose his medical license for making those claims. But notice he also backtracks, and is playing word games too. I don't believe he did it, as if he did, he would be in jail. Human cloning will be possible, they are cloning mammals now. The problem is there are lots of mistakes, and lots of deaths, and also mutants. So
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Do you think this character who claimed to clone 3 babies (now about 9 years old, and no, he won't release their identity for their privacy) is using Rael's Alien Cloning Technology?
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these sex groups are very interesting, and NOT for the prurient reasons. Most of them have a version of Flirty Fishing, or these days one might use other F'words, as a way to gain new members and customers. But people who get deeply involved in sex groups, really do believe they have seen the light. They generally think all those people out there who try to have so-called "monog
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He in the past has chastised the Catholic religion so I guess he doesn't like the Jewish religion either. Probably another way to find members. He likes the publicity and power. A true narcissist.
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oh please, that is complete fucking bullshit, and you know it, and Rael knows it. That is the same nonsense Rael says, as he thinks people are stupid. Rael gets a perverse pleasure out of upsetting people, and for his own perverse reasons, he targets Jewish people. Rael enjoys "playing" with being an antisemite. One assumes the antisemetic groups know about him, and perhaps choose to
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