Quoterrmoderatorrestless: What direct experienc do you have with the Raelians? What specific involvement did you have with them? Did you actually attend meetings, events, programs? Please explain your level of involvement. I never had any direct experience or involvement with Raelians. I merely just looked them up thoroughly. Are you going to ban me for being a fraud or somethin
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restless: What direct experienc do you have with the Raelians? What specific involvement did you have with them? Did you actually attend meetings, events, programs? Please explain your level of involvement.
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Quoterrmoderator restless: What is your purpose posting at this message board? At first it was to explain my experience with researching Raelism and hoping to hear from any Ex-Raelians and later as I scrolled through this thread, to learn more behind Rael's motives and such. QuoterrmoderatorThe Raelian group has cloned no one and uses various publicity stunts simply to garner attent
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restless: What is your purpose posting at this message board? See The Raelian group has cloned no one and uses various publicity stunts simply to garner attention and feed Vorilhon's seemingly insatiable ego. The Raelian group appears to be little more than a con, run by Claude Vorilhon, to fund his lifestyle. You are going back and forth, almost as if you are playing a game
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But I remember Anticult saying that none of the Clonaid facilities existed. Where are the supposed places and how do we know they're hoaxes?
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Have you checked this out:
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these cults and groups get their followers to lie for them all the time. Sometimes with a rationalization, other times they lie to them, and they just do what they are told. For example, Brigitte Boisselier she could be making the clone stuff up to please Rael, or just repeating what she is told. Notice they say the have the clones, but they can't test them, due to fear of them bein
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Sorry or have I just misunderstood you. "Kinda seems like the monies for the so called embassy to be built". Are you saying they're saving the money for the Embassy?
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And so what if they're actually building an embassy? Right now, its seeming like a mystery thriller to me.
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I'm not sure who all is in the "inner circle" so to speak. I would imagine they are told what to say for the good of the movement. As far as the pleasure hospital, this has been in the works since May 2006 and it seems like they always claim they need more money. They have set their purpose as to not just fix these women but to restore their ability to have sexual pleasure.
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Even his followers are ordered to tell lies!?
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nellejohn, you are right on the money. Clonaid was a fraud, and the media got burned too many times, so now they all ignore Rael. There are nowhere near 70,000 Raelians, that is another lie. Search google for this term. Rael's Girls And the genital mutilation... people who want to help with that cause can donate to established medical charities who have been working on that for
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QuotenellejohnOne of the Raelians current projects is building a hospital in Africa for victims of Female Genital Mutilation. In itself it sounds like a noble project but not much has happened in the past few years except fundraising. He was going to call it the Pleasure Hospital which in itself shows what it really is. Most Raelians are probably pretty benign. They just want to believe
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One of the Raelians current projects is building a hospital in Africa for victims of Female Genital Mutilation. In itself it sounds like a noble project but not much has happened in the past few years except fundraising. He was going to call it the Pleasure Hospital which in itself shows what it really is. Most Raelians are probably pretty benign. They just want to believe in something s
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Regarding the article about Rael's childhood history and so on, when Roland said that Claude explained about never having seen aliens and have used the story for his own gain. I wonder, why did he tell Roland that after having spread his story to hundreds of people. One more thing, have a lot of Sci-i stories been running during the 50's and 60's? As films as well?
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folks should listen to this tape from L Ron Hubbard from Scientology, if you get a chance. It explains things like when Tom Cruise said a Scientologist is the only one who can help at the scene of an accident, as LRH explains his inane/insane theories. But just like Rael, here is a guy who just makes up a bunch of Sci-Fi stuff, and tries to find people to believe it. Rael just fabricated all
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The cloning was verified as being a fake, as none of their facilities even existed. It was a complete fraud. This is why the media now ignore the Raelians, due to that media fraud. Regarding the buliding, groups like these often have these big projects, they serve as a PR stunt, and they also serve to extract more donations from people. They usually never get around to building these things,
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Quadruple post. And how do we know the cloning claims are fake? Why did Rael also include Geniocracy and Smart vs primitive (His twist on Good vs Evil)?
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Oh wait. (Dang, triple post again!) What about that Embassy they're building, if it isn't for aliens, what do you think its for anyhow?
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And during that reported interview with Claude's friend Roland, Claude did tell him he did lie but some part of me didn't want to believe it and so I went in my imaginary world that Claude was being sarcastic.
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QuoteThe Anticultjust as an example of Alien cultic weirdness, there is a secret recording of LRH from Scientology with some crazy Sci-Fi alien stuff, which is available at Wikileaks for download. It seems to be a cross between sci-fi fiction he just made up, and a serious mental disorder. Perhaps other alien cults are similar. QUOTE _______________________ Summary "Classified&qu
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just as an example of Alien cultic weirdness, there is a secret recording of LRH from Scientology with some crazy Sci-Fi alien stuff, which is available at Wikileaks for download. It seems to be a cross between sci-fi fiction he just made up, and a serious mental disorder. Perhaps other alien cults are similar. QUOTE _______________________ Summary "Classified" Scientology c
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Rael is a pretty standard sci-fi type cult leader. He's just in it for the money, the sex, the egomania. And of course he would have to be a bit crazy too. But its just a cynical scam, their cloning claims were complete fakes, they use sex to attract followers. All that Alien stuff, he just made it up. The photos of him posing with a bogus spaceship, its like a comedy act. Notice how
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Sorry for the triple post but I often come up with ideas and questions at unexpected times. I wonder if anyone's examined these articles: Also, if Rael is as far as pedophilistic, this is hard for me to imagine a guy like him being so utterly twisted... and clever if it is all a lie. I'm new to cults and particularly this one which seems so very convincing to me, well I am
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QuoteThe AnticultThere have been some people from time to time who posted about Rael. Raelian Movement? and child sexual abuse, pedophilia, Raelians I need information Thank you. I've just made my next posts on the first listed thread.
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Of course, I don't see how Rael's idea of Geniocracy fits in with sex and cloning.
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Now I know how much of a sleaze that guy is. It was about a week ago, I looked into Raelism. What attracted me was the twisted version of the Bible story. It sure sounded true, (Almost all of it) thanks to Rael's clever use of the names from the other religions: Elohim, Eloha and such. Just today I was beginning to recover from it and revert back to my christian beliefs but one more t
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There have been some people from time to time who posted about Rael. Raelian Movement? and child sexual abuse, pedophilia, Raelians I need information
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About a week ago, I looked up Raelism (But I was also very new to cults at the time) and seeing all its beliefs based on a twisted interpretation of the Bible, it all just possessed me! But I didn't want it to be true and I figured I should look up more of it as well as the cult leader, Claude Vorilhon to find any faults in it and why he interpretated some parts of the Old Testament and
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QuotemletouThe raelians like nutity and sexual freedom (the right to have sex in any form they want between consenting adults) but are against sexuality with children. Both specialists of religion James R. Lewis (An Encyclopedia of Contemporary Myth) and Susan Palmer (Alien's Adored: Rael's UFO religion) confirm this view. Also Massimo Introvigne and J.Gordon Melton from the CESNUR (Cen
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