Dear Dogmother, (In a more serious vein)...I certainly agree with you that the genuine love on the part of any mother for her child, by comparison, absolutely puts the sword to the pretence of "brotherly compassion" for those "sincere" in their faith that David McKay masquerades behind. I apologize if I was unclear here.....David, well and truly at home inside the Gates of
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(excerpt) The Raëlian Files: Sex, Clones and UFOs www.culteducation.com/reference/raelians/raelians93.html ... Raël also enjoys posing for photographs with his nubile, topless disciples. The group's literature features pictures of nude women who appear to be in the midst of ogasmic throes. Raël details the origins of his free-love philosophy in his book. After meeting his fellow pr
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The Raelians have a long history of making intentional false public statements. For example, a few years ago they committed a media hoax and claimed they had cloned a human, and clearly did so under the orders from Rael. So once a group, or a cult has a history of making false statements, then they have zero credibility. Anything put forward by the Raelians has to be checked first by objective
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QuotemletouAlso the raelians have a website , which works against pedophillia and are helping society to denounce pedophiles. There is also a message on the home page of the raelian website www.rael.org for pedophiles (bottom of page) Serioulsy do you think that the raelians would advertise their pedophile activities ? It's not because the raelians write disclaimers about pedophilia th
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QuotemletouAlso the raelians have a website , which works against pedophillia and are helping society to denounce pedophiles. There is also a message on the home page of the raelian website www.rael.org for pedophiles (bottom of page) Serioulsy do you think that the raelians would advertise their pedophile activities ? It's not because the raelians write disclaimers about pedophilia th
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There seems to be a lot of propaganda by the Raelians on the internet about child sexual abuse, and various comments about the Catholic priests sexual abuse of children, etc. One can be sure anytime a thread on the internet gets picked up, involving the Raelians and allegations of child sexual abuse, pedophilia, they are going to post those types of pre-scripted propaganda statements. Hopef
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mletou: Are you serious quoting these "specialists"? You refer to "James R. Lewis (has been the director of CAN (cult awareness network...Susan Palmer...Massimo Introvigne and J.Gordon Melton from the CESNUR..." But these specialists specialize in cult apology and are all well-known as "cult apologists." See Lewis and Melton flew to Japan all expenses
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In the interest of clarifying what is rumor and what is not, I will just address the rumor that says that Raelians are sympathetic to pedophilia. Is it really true? That would be something really big if true... The specialists agree that raelians like nudity and sexual freedom (the right to have sex in any form they want between consenting adults) but they also say that they are against sexuality
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The raelians like nutity and sexual freedom (the right to have sex in any form they want between consenting adults) but are against sexuality with children. Both specialists of religion James R. Lewis (An Encyclopedia of Contemporary Myth) and Susan Palmer (Alien's Adored: Rael's UFO religion) confirm this view. Also Massimo Introvigne and J.Gordon Melton from the CESNUR (Center of Stud
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If a person searches Google for the keywords below, some information does come up about the Raelians, and allegations about the sexual abuse of children... There also seems to be a lot of Raelian propaganda around these issues out there... Of course, if anyone hears of any credible reports of the sexual abuse of children, then it should be reported immediately to the police, child services, t
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QuoteThe Anticult Shouldn't any first hand reports of child abuse, in any circumstance, be immediately be reported to the authorities? They might send an undercover officer in there, and see what is happening... I didn't see any sexual interaction per se. I only saw naked people around the swimming pool and some adults flirting. However the guy who gave me water told me that sex was f
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First I would like to say hello to all of you and to express how grateful I am to have found this very useful website. Let me quickly introduce myself, I am French (so please forgive in advance my broken english) and for a couple of years I've noticed in my country some growing cultish activities. I guess a turning point was the Solar Temple collective suicide that involved several Fre
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QuoteThe AnticultThere are actually some threads about the Raelians...you need to press the SEARCH ALL DATES option, as the default is only 30 days.. you may want to repost your comment in the main thread about them called... Thank you for this information, I will repost my message in the existing Raelian thread.
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There are actually some threads about the Raelians...you need to press the SEARCH ALL DATES option, as the default is only 30 days.. you may want to repost your comment in the main thread about them called... Raelian Movement? Shouldn't any first hand reports of child abuse, in any circumstance, be immediately be reported to the authorities? They might send an undercover officer i
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First I would like to say hello to all of you and to express how grateful I am to have found this very useful website. Let me quickly introduce myself, I am French (so please forgive in advance my broken english) and for a couple of years I've noticed in my country some growing cultish activities. I guess a turning point was the Solar Temple collective suicide that involved several Fre
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The person I know who is in Sterling told me a very improbable story about having an encounter with aliens that also involved a manifestation of his recently deceased father. I know that having some sort of closure with one's father is an important part of Sterling; the part of the story about aliens seemed to cross over into some kind of Raelian-type narrative (from the little I know about
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missmek, many of the points you brought up are the same that I brought up to my husband also. My husband couldn't see what was so apparent to me and family about Rael and his supposed religion. It was one of the most awful times in my life. Although things are better now I still think about the difficult times every day. I think what bothered me the most about Rael wasn't the part a
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QuoteFishbulbI took a look at the Raelian website. I've certainly heard about them and wondered what their baseline belief system really is. Apparently it is the belief that we were "intelligently designed" by aliens. Alright, so who "designed" those aliens? What's the history? Was there a "first alien" some time, way back?
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I took a look at the Raelian website. I've certainly heard about them and wondered what their baseline belief system really is. Apparently it is the belief that we were "intelligently designed" by aliens. Alright, so who "designed" those aliens? What's the history? Was there a "first alien" some time, way back? That belief
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He found out about the raelians through the internet. The attraction is the ET and UFO aspect. At least at first. As you stated CaptPorridge, scientific is one thing they are not. Personally, my husband's dedication to this is growing stronger day by day. It reminds me of when you see anyone become "fanatic" in a new religion. Maybe due to the personal excitement of findin
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CaptPorridge you are so right about Rael. He does want to be God by another name. He talks about love and peace but if you don't see things his way you are stupid or an idiot. I'm curious missmek where your husband first found out about the Raelians? I'm not sure where mine did but he is really into science so that's what the appeal was to him. I don't really think
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Quotemissmek Also I question how Raelianism is an atheist religion. They may not believe in God, but they do believe in the Elohim as their creators, plan on their return for immortality and rely on their faith in Rael as messanger. I do wish someone could clue me in on where I am wrong in questioning that aspect. It's God by another name. He's just using a different name for his u
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nellejohn, Not yet has he gone to a seminar and from I have read about these seminars, I feel I would have a serious problem with him attending. He has not mentioned any plans on attending seminars, only the celluar transmission date on October 7th. He has also stated that he would work on building the embassy for the elohim if he was needed. I am not sure what to think about all of this. We l
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missmek I feel for you. Did your husband go to a seminar? My husband was the family member I speak of. He went to a seminar several years ago and I didn't think much of it. Just that it was sort of out there but not much else. He continued to go about twice a year. Last year he got himself very involved and was making trips once or twice a month working on a project of the Raelians.
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Thank you for your information that you all have replied with. I have spent a lot of time researching this group and reading Rael's Intellegent Design in hopes to understand or get a clearer picture of my spouse's newfound belief and interest. Last week I just had to take a break from it. We spent hours into the night discussing the entire thing. What I have found is that when someone i
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This is definitely not a good group. I've been dealing with it for the past several years due to involvement of a family member. They seem to appeal to ex catholics and "trekkie" types. It has almost ended a 20+ year marriage in our family due to the involvement. I have researched this group alot. I really have a hard time with understanding how they can believe this Rael gu
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For some reason they always parade in the Gay Pride Marches in London and Brighton (UK). But with the concept of free love / free sex whatever haven't they heard of condoms? Ah - but then you can't have an alien sprog if you follow the commonsense dictats of safer sex. I wonder how many of these idiots end up with as STD / STI or worse AIDS / HIV? CJB.
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QuotemissmekThis is concerning the International Raelian Movement. I would appreciate any insight to the danger or lack thereof of this cult. My spouse has recently informed me of his decision to join this movement/ religion. He told me of his plan to join included some meeting and induction sort ceremony that can be done only on certain dates. This is where I am more than concerned, we have been
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I don't know much about the theories, except the ones publicly known about alienstuff. But a former girl friend of mine, spent some time on a raellian camp and she told me there was a lot of sex involved. Everybody being naked a lot and being encouraged (not forced though) to have as much sex as possible with everybody in order to allow the aliens to be born in a human women. She got discuss
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See The Raelians have a long history of complaints, bad press and serious problems. I am very sorry to learn of your situation. Also see
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