Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: zeuszor ()
Date: January 26, 2011 10:40AM

I am now drinking my evening vino. A toast to Apollo! Salut!



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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: Apollo ()
Date: January 26, 2011 10:47AM

Cheers and thank you for your endless work on this thread zeuszor. You have been a revelation. Who knows how this cult may have grown if it wasn't for gentlemen like Mal, Rick, Stoic and of course yourself!

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: zeuszor ()
Date: January 26, 2011 10:51AM

Apollo, I am merely an unprofitable servant; I have only done that which I know to be my duty. Thank you for your support.

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: Apollo ()
Date: January 26, 2011 10:54AM

Do you think McKay's death would spell the end for the JCs?

I wonder what percent of cults continue to grow after their leader dies.

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: zeuszor ()
Date: January 26, 2011 10:56AM

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Apollo
Do you think McKay's death would spell the end for the JCs?

I wonder what percent of cults continue to grow after their leader dies.

Man, I am going to bed now. See you tomorrow. Good night.

Do you realize that I skipped out on my own Confirmation to fly to England and be on JK? Shoot, I never was confirmed. That's the truth.



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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: January 26, 2011 05:21PM

Davejc seems to have a psychic affinity to known paedophile offenders masquerading as holy men.

[jcs.xjcs.org]

'The point was that anti-cult individuals and groups use anonymity to disguise illegal things that they do, and they excuse the anonymity on the basis of concocted fears about reprisals against themselves.'

In his latest argument to prove the world-wide conspiracy against him and his attempt to get the personal information of his current targets, he argues against anonymity and cites Sai Baba as an example of a harmless holy man that no-one needs to hide from.

The 'really clever' Davejc was able to spot that something was wrong because:

[jcs.xjcs.org]

..........' Sai Baba, a very highly respected Indian holy man. He rather obviously knows how to do a few magic tricks where he pretends to produce souvenir trinkets out of the air, and he makes a lot of money, mostly from his wealthy western followers. But there is no such thing as members being harmed because parents disagree with the group.'

[www.kevinrdshepherd.net]

Sai Baba has a well-documented history of multiple accusations of paedophile assault of young boys against him and the very curious and still unsolved case of the violent murder of 4 of his boy attendants and two guards in his bedroom some years ago. The Indian officials who looked into these cases turned out to be either devotees or on the payroll in some way, according to local reporting:

[www.saibaba-x.org.uk]

The late, noted Indian sceptic B Premanand researched the Sai Baba org:

[www.kevinrdshepherd.net]

'Premanand has referred to many alleged murders on the websites associated with his Indian Skeptic journal. He has said that he survived only because of his prominence. He has filed several unsuccessful lawsuits against the guru, who has very strong support from devotees and sympathisers in prominent positions. Premanand has stated “I have the records of more than a hundred persons destroyed by the Sathya Sai Baba gang, beginning with one Mr. Venkatamuni of Madras who was done away at Madurai in an air conditioned room and then (after getting death certificates from doctors) taken to Madras by Sathya Sai Baba in his own car and cremated without giving any information to the police.”

Premanand refers to deaths by car accidents, heart failure, poisoning, hanging, and drowning. A number of these deaths were officially interpreted as suicides. In the same entry, Premanand refers to “hundreds of such deaths.” Even if that be considered an exaggeration, the implications are extremely grave and merit due examination to the extent possible. See the entry “Suicides, Deaths, Missing persons covered–up at Prashanti Nilayam ashram,” comprising arresting information available at [www.saibaba-x.org.uk]. The grim factor of despair or stress causing suicide is mentioned in some accounts.'


And, as they say in the infomercials, there's much, much, more.
Any sane person who incurred Sai Baba's displeasure would be wise to hide from him.

Such elevated holy company Davejc seeks to align himself with in an effort to silence a critical response on a forum.
Really clever or just really ignorant?




Something also that I am wondering, when Davejc claims to be in hiding--who exactly is he hiding from, disgruntled ex-members or possibly the Australian investigators of welfare and tax fraud?



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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: zeuszor ()
Date: January 26, 2011 11:33PM

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Apollo
Do you think McKay's death would spell the end for the JCs?

I wonder what percent of cults continue to grow after their leader dies.

Man, I am going to bed now. See you tomorrow. Good night.

Do you realize that I skipped out on my own Confirmation to fly to England and be on JK? Shoot, I never was confirmed. That's the truth.

Don't get me wrong; I do not regret skipping my confirmation and am not exressing such regret here. I just think that it's ironic, is all.



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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: zeuszor ()
Date: January 27, 2011 04:13AM

Susan, I would like to be able to get along with you, and I would like to be able to make the peace between the two of us, but frankly I do not really care if you like me or not. I am not here to try and gain your approval.

You spend as much time bitching about me as about Dave, and I don't get it. Whose side are you on here?

To me, very little of this is personal; it's all about business.

Please write me at your convenience, and I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from cursing at me and calling me names like "little bitch boy" in our future email exchanges. The last time you wrote me, Susan, you called me a little bitch. That's not nice. When did I ever talk like that to you? Calling me a little bitch, now that is a personal attack if there ever was one.

I don't know if you realize it or not, but in one of your abusive emails to me, you referred to me as "Dave." My name is not Dave. My name is Brian.

I still have a copy, and if you'd like me to show you I'll forward it back to you.

If you are not willing to write me privately (feel free to call me, too; remember, you have my number but I don't have yours) then I'd you to ask Nick to give me access to XJCs after all, so that I can defend myself in the very place where I am constantly being discussed and defamed.

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: zeuszor ()
Date: January 27, 2011 04:19AM

Susan, Dave and his Pod People are starting to turn your head inside-out, meaning no disrespect.

My I suggest that you back off for a bit, take a break from the forum and collect yourself?

Just a recommendation; do whatever you want. You don't need my permission to do anything, obviously.

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Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Posted by: zeuszor ()
Date: January 27, 2011 06:46AM

mistake



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