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4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
When I first left the church, I had heard about how John Miller got screwed over. Well, I think that if he had any integrity, he would have done everything to help people he had harmed or the church had harmed and he knew. He is self preserving as well as wanting to be the big man. so the fact that he has stepped over bleeding people to keep his own ass in tact is telling.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
I am really glad that FireWalker has joined the conversation. Welcome FireWalker. And thank you for calling out the bullshit being promoted by onion. John Miller uses people to protect his own ass and those of his cronies. He is not a good man. he is self-serving with delusions of granduer--- a legend in his own mind. He believes in the false teachings of the LW and so I guess then he beli
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4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I hope everyone is having a good day. You guys > certainly deserve it! > > In Christ's Blood, > changedagain Well, I certainly wish I was. Apparently I don't deserve anything. But that is a matter for the gods to decide. Maybe they will cut me a break. Happy New Year to all of yo
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quote > Posted by: 4generation > Date: December 27, 2019 09:28AM > > Welcome Powertrip, so good to see annother > brazilian posting here. > > Unfortunately what you shared with us is not a > surprise to me and only shows how deceived we have > been for decades in this church. >
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
PowerTrip, There are no words for the disdain I have for those sick people. So sorry, so very sorry for your lost years. I hope you find some healing here. There is a Facebook group where you can feel free to share this all publicly unless you want to remain anonymous. But it is public so you can read the discussions. Further discussion of the living word fellowship. They have opened it up for
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Looking around these forums is sad. A reality test > of groups like those represented here could best > be summed up with something I said during the last > few years before leaving TLWF. People are not > God. It was not well-received. > > And the corollary: If a person tells you to > tre
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Tomorrow,Thanksgiving Day, will be sad for so many people from tlwf, former and current members. Some are estranged from their families, some are together but have lost so many friends and people they have known all their lives. What that cult has done to families is unconscionable. So for today, let's light a candle for each soul that has been hurt and devastated by this destructive cu
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wayne Barton was an early omen of what was to come > in The Walk/TLWF. He had something JRS needed > (being a gifted church organist) and therefore was > tolerated and his molestation of church members > was covered up. There were so many others; many > were "apostolic ministries". Harol
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Nancy B. Please reconsider. I agree with Reep.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Changed, thank you for the stats. Isn't that like 800,000 since 2016?
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Our Survival Is Based On Obedience" > June 29, 2018 - by Gary Hargrave > > "This Word shows us that as we move out of a place > of relative safety in our walk with God and into > harm’s way, our obedience to the Father will > determine life or death. We will face lies about
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This forum is not dead (yet). That day will come, > and when it does, I still think we should not > charge more than $40 for each person attending its > funeral. > (Page views to date: 1,021,287) Wasn't it under 200,000 in February 2016? I think I recall that I saw that. It had stepped
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quotepuddington > ...and it sounds like Gary is trying to take > credit for shutting down the LW. “Laying an axe to > the root”. What a crock! The Hindenburg is burning > and Shalom lit the match, not Gary. > > > Thank you for pointing this out, puddington. > Shalom publicly posted her
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
40yearsin2016 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is it possible that the nightmare is coming to an > end? Maybe in Brazil.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cloudwatcher Wrote: > > And a word about GH. He never had John's > charisma. I remember not wanting to transcribe > his services, and I don't believe I ever did. > Hargrave sounds like a drone. Soooo Boring. He > does not hold a candle to JRS as far as that. If > Marilyn h
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Question: Are there any other charitable > organizations besides churches in which > individuals who have donated thousands of dollars > for years of their lives are not valued or their > opinions taken into consideration because they > stop donating? Asking for a friend... Scientology
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
4 years ago
Cloudwatcher
kbyrne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Catching up on the last few weeks of posts, so > appreciative of those that continue to share. > Thanks to those that have kept us updated on > Shiloh. In reading the articles it made me > wonder who actually owns Shiloh? Who will benefit > financially from any deals done? > > Thanks chang
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > p.s. Bob liked my sense of humor, too. He was one > of the few people in the fellowship that did not > believe it originated from Satan :) I like your sense of humor too. I am certain it didn't come from Satan. It saved my ass more than once. Do you realize we didn't even have 200,000 in F
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Reep That was an excellent synopsis of the view of death in the "Walk". It is cruel and heartless and strips people of their last moments of humanity.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Hey everyone. I am catching up on posts.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Richard M. Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > While reading everything here on page 840, > including comments by Tmason, this whole thing, > "JRS, Marilyn, Gary and Rick," reminds me of an > organized crime syndicate, but finds me with great > trepidation for the unknowing victims now caught > as willing or unwilling witnesses quest
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reepicheep Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > QuoteRichard M. > > > > ...Stevens made it clear to Richard that taking > as > > much as you can through the gifts of others > > without being known for it or otherwise caught > for > &g
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Hi all, just wanted to say hi. I haven't been too involved the past few weeks. I guess I am taking a break. I have a lot going on and with so many forums it gets confusing. I love you all and can't possibly catch up on posts and respond so I will make every effort to check in daily. It seems like a lull in things. But there is no lull in TLWF crap. I want justice as much as a
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Man I have not posted in a little while--have been reading but I am overwhelmed with shit right now so I am sorry if I seem rude. I see a lot of new names and welcome all to the journey out of the darkness. I love you all and am so thankful to have you in my life. I am not being pithy today but will try to drum up some more good sarcasm and edginess in the near future. Right now I am very t
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Off subject here...but I personally know most of > the regular posters on this forum. I would > characterize them and myself as nonviolent to the > extreme. So I'm always suspicious when word gets > back from the cult that there has been a threat of > violence against them originating from
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Ohman? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JRS = John Robert Stevens AKA: Brother Stevens, > John Actually, he was Bob Stevens back in the day--people outside the fellowship knew him by that name--he was kind famous in a sense--notorious actually.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Walked and Onion, many are still reeling from the > realization of time, money and lives wasted on The > Walk/TLWF con. It is truly sickening. I also hope > to salvage some good by networking with others who > have awakened. > > PressingOn and kBoy, seeing the terms "aura" and >
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Oh wow. TLWF hired an attorney to investigate itself. Isn't that novel?
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Welcome Pressing On Sometimes I go days and miss a lot of posts then try to catch up. I am not sure when you first posted- and with the survivor site now--it is hard going back and forth. But welcome to you and keep posting
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
VKocsis I remember Bill Grier--Wow. I heard a bunch of elders left clw back then and went to live on commune. I wonder if some of them branched off after the 1967 split. I would very much like it if you joined the survivors FB page- Onion is right--people need to hear how dangerous this "Living Word" really is on so many levels. welcome
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