Thank you for your devotion to this forum, Changedagain. You are the principal reason that I managed to find my way out. We have battled the forces of evil cult leaders and their minions. The day that Shalom publicly posted her letters on Facebook was the day the trolls vanished off of this forum. Weird, huh? They were threatening us so that we would be afraid to expose them. When it went public,
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Thank you to Scott and Charity for shining a light in the dark places and for helping us to understand the wrongs that were done by TLWF leaders over the years. We couldn't know. We weren't allowed to know, to share information, to do research and find the truth. For so many years, I blamed myself for things that happened, even when I had nothing to do with the situation. I blamed mysel
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: changedagain () Date: January 27, 2025 01:24AM This is not a good look for the big bad bully: It seems that the California governor is familiar with the president's clasp and yank maneuver and is having none of it. ; )
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: changedagain () Date: December 10, 2024 07:44PM On the subject of 'trust has to be earned'--September of 2018 Thank you, Changed, Cloudwatcher, kBOY, Road to Damascus, and dbc. Well said!
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Here is the latest Oops! I'm In A Cult by Scott Barker and Charity Navalesi. I know that we have all been wondering..."Wheres the Money?
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I'm so thankful that you posted this link, Changed. This one is a must-see. I knew Kristy's family well for many years. Her experiences, that she related so courageously in this video, are another devastating nail in the coffin of The Living Word Fellowship and its leaders. I can relate to her truth. And I am sure that it is the truth. No shred of doubt in my mind. I had many similar ex
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That's great, Changed! I'm sure that you'll be great. You're more like a coach than a guru. Try not to make them laugh too hard. ; )
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Great post, Changed. I remember Richard M. There is a new Oops! I'm In A Cult podcast. In it Charity and Scott read letters that they have received from listeners. Very interesting.
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Changed wrote: I received a succinct message this morning from a former "Yasper" after she watched the latest Oops episode last night. Always concerned when the first word of a message is 'yikes.' Former Yasper: Yikes. Unfortunately I watched this. I do like Scott and Charity. Gary really was a bully/creep ************************** Changed, a very smart f
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Holding cult leaders accountable is good for everyone involved. A new Oops! I'm In A Cult dropped a few days ago. In it, Scott Barker and Charity Navalesi discuss the culture and beliefs that were ingrained in young people of The Walk/TLWF. It is aptly (and tragically) titled "The Living Word Young Adult School of Sex". It shows excerpts from a videotaped 1992 meeting that Gary and
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Changed wrote: --------------- Later, for something a bit lighter in nature, perhaps watch this (link below). Basically, it's a 'fathering ministry' not receiving the reverence he deserves. Or maybe he's getting exactly what he deserves, and this is an example of how things should be in a healthy family. This video of Governor Walz and daughter, Hope, making a PSA f
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Oops! I forgot to share the latest two Oops! I'm In A Cult video podcasts. Warning: May induce rage, cursing, and the like. Parts One and Two of Gary A. Hargrave's deposition. :^O Part One: Part Two:
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I agree, Jewel. Reading and hearing about Branham makes it obvious that John Robert Steven's "direct revelations from God" were actually lifted from Latter Rain teaching by Branham and others. It also helps to explain why we were told not to drink from many fountains. If we had been exposed to other groups and their literature, we would have been surprised to find those same aposto
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So sad, Changed. So many people dropped out of college because the "Kingdom was coming". One strange thing...John Robert Stevens never (as far as I know) ever encouraged young people who were members of his family to drop out. Was this because he obviously knew that his "vision" never actually happened? Or maybe because he might need to help support them if they could not earn
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Here is the most recent Oops! I'm In A Cult video podcast. Does anybody else remember John Robert Stevens saying many times that "the Lord told him to stay away from Latter Rain teachings"? Back in those days, I had never heard of Latter Rain. Prepare to be amazed at how familiar they will sound. More plagiarism and lies?
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I have been waiting for the better part of six decades to hear the true story behind the "split of 1967". This episode is amazing!
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Puddington wrote: "My shepherd said I was a vessel of Satan. Does that count? Can I join the neph club?" Oh, yes! You are definitely in the club, puddington! Welcome! I bet they never imagined that they were creating an elite club that people would try to qualify to join! Lol! ; D Hey, maybe we need t-shirts or something!
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Changed, LOL! : D The actual nephs were the leaders. You know, the ones that called anyone that challenged them a nephilim, a Jezebel, or a witch, or maybe a Korah. They called us bitter, rebellious, and evil. They had one finger pointed at us, and three back at themselves, so there's that. Well, now I call them phonies, sadists, sociopaths and malignant narcissists. Say it loud!
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Thank you so much for your kind words, Changed. LuAnn P.S. You are not a neph either. : )
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Here is another new episode of Oops! I'm In A Cult. Find answers to your questions with Scott and Charity's outstanding research. Did you believe JRS when he claimed that he didn't participate in The Latter Rain movement? Find out the truth!
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The latest episode of Oops! I'm In A Cult is transformative. Especially for those of us subjected to misogynistic leaders our whole lives. It touches on common beliefs about women held for thousands of years across many religions. Great research from Charity, especially. Oops! I'm I A Cult Girls Turn It off/Mysogeny in Christianity
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Love this, Changedagain! *************** Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: changedagain () Date: April 10, 2024 12:34PM Updated stats: Comments: 12,589 Page views: 3,718,477 Thank you to all who have contributed to this discussion through the years-- including, but not limited to: UnapologeticallyJohn832, Reepicheep, puddington, k
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Posted by: paleface Date: December 06, 2015 01:30AM Does anyone know when the prayers for the death of Martha Stevens started? Was it 1974 or so? Or was it earlier? ***************** I was told that the intercessor group knew about this and prayed for Martha's death starting in 1962. That was the same year that John Robert Stevens claimed to have a vision of his wife, Martha, lying
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Changed wrote: The connection between idolizing a dishonest, ego-driven leader and normalizing the use of violence against his perceived enemies. That would include his first wife, of course. Posted by: Lilith Date: October 03, 2023 04:23AM That was quite an eye-opening episode. The violence against JRS's wife Martha at the time described in her divorce filing was horrible, and the
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Changed wrote: Too bad the 'door opener' didn't leave many of these doors shut. That would have been helpful. It would mean less nonsense for survivors of his 'ministry' to contend with. I agree. How I wish we had had the internet in those days. When some of my friends started posting on this and other forums, my eyes were opened. I said, "They are saying what
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The Jewel wrote: I suspect that there was a lot in JRS teaching that wasn’t “original” to him (that has been said by many). I had a coworker that once referred to his girlfriend as “a spiritual vampire.” —- I guess the relationship wasn’t going too well. I was floored to hear that term (outside of TLW) and asked him where he got that. After probing a bit, I found out he had grown up in Four-Sq
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TheJewel wrote: There was no shortage of bizarre stuff flying around. For some reason it was always the democrats who were the bad guys behind it all. Rockefeller and other celebrity “nephilim.” Incidentally, I remember reading something about the New Apostolic Reformation movement where there was a comment about the Nephilim thing. So the conspiracy lives on I guess. I think I caught this
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Oh, and Bob Dylan too! And the sweatshirt. Thanks, Changed and Jewel!
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The Chad Mitchell Trio...blast from the past! I still remember when John Robert Stevens was passing out material from The John Birch Society. Wow!
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Changed wrote: "What to you like least about me?" "That you tend to make sense." "Well, what can I do about that?" "Easy--I have in my possession a bunch of CD's where Marilyn speaks about the spirit realm. Just listen to them faithfully before you go to bed every night. You will be a changed person." "For the better?" "
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