Posted by changedagain: Keeping people busy, always working on one 'vital' project after another, is a good way to keep them distracted from recognizing the con game going on behind the scenes. It certainly worked...until it didn't. Yes. Those vital projects were all so important that the KINGDOM depended on them being done immediately if not sooner... But once you've se
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Wow! Thank you to Liamoftheusa for posting this and to Changedagain for re-posting. While thinking about being fiery and energetic, I am reminded of the “Can You Live In A Siege" mentality. The worst thing you could do was wish for a relaxing, comfortable life. That was an automatic symptom of apathy and failure. “The violent take the Kingdom by force" was the battle cry during the l
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I heard that Bowman Littleton died in the orient, still searching for the "real" thing after he realized that this was not it. So sad.
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An interesting link regarding the phenomenon known as "cult-hopping". Forewarned is forearmed.
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NancyB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Northerngate; I did experience to the max that I > could tolerate... then what did I go and do? > > I fell into a the delusions of a narcissistic > socio-path who pushed me to write a book about her > - (sh-shh I was not supposed to tell that she > created everything.) With me having a sign on my
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NancyB, I don't know about covens in LA churches. Sometimes I do wonder, where in the Bible did JRS get the idea to have members praying or prophesying for people to die? I don't find chapter and verse saying that Mordecai prayed for Haman to die, or that Peter prayed for Ananias and Saphira to die. Most people in The Walk probably didn't even know that the crazy "violent decl
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Quote Posted by: Onion () Date: December 07, 2019 04:47PM I have almost always felt this was a safe place to talk. Me, not so much...until after Shalom's post and the viral aftermath. Now I'm good, though. ; )
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Northerngate, I thought of your family cult story as I was listening to Dawn Smith. And our old RR Forum friend TKNC, too. If you're still reading TKNC, hope you're getting better every day. Onion, finding fewer triggers coming up and going on with your life sounds awesome. I'm going to work on that too. As I was listening to the Rick Ross interview I posted earlier, I realiz
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Here is a link to a TedTalk by Dawn Smith. She was raised in a cult and talks about her experiences and how she left. One thing she said during the talk was: "The hardest day of freedom is better than the best day in a cult". That really resonated with me. Even though we may feel like we are starting over much later in life than we would like, it's still better than living in th
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Wondering how to help people who are still stuck in an oppressive group? Or how the current political situation might be related? Here is a link to a very insightful interview with Rick Ross.
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Quote Posted by: changedagain () Date: December 02, 2019 11:40AM 'I Alone Have Done His Will' -Senior Pastor, Apostolic Father and Chancellor (a living word from 'The Meek Will Inherit the Earth' series) Posted by: kBOY () Date: December 02, 2019 02:34PM C H A N G E D H I L A R I O U S. An alternate title (and possibly more accurate given the circumstances) m
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Posted by: Northerngate () Date: December 03, 2019 04:10PM I found something good today while reading during my lunch break: Shame thrives on secret keeping, and when it comes to secrets, there’s some serious science behind the twelve-step program saying, “You’re only as sick as your secrets.” Awesome, Northerngate!
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Posted by: JesusJesusJesus () Date: December 03, 2019 02:57PM No bidet in G and M's apt. Why would there need to be? Their poop didn't smell, right? Or maybe they were perfected enough that they didn't poop at all. Something to ponder... If I was a betting person, my money would be on them NOT loading their own dishwasher. Too busy receiving the only revelation on earth an
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Posted by: Northerngate () Date: December 03, 2019 09:39AM Reepicheep and Tknc Just a thought...I am very careful these days about who gets to lay hands on me. There is something to be said about negative energy passing from one person to another. I hear you on that one, Northerngate. I'm careful about who lays hands on me too. Actually, that would be NOBODY! Too many triggers. I t
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Quote Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Tknc () Date: June 10, 2019 01:04PM I was told my whole life because JRS laid hands on me when I was born, that the Spirit was imparted to me and that I too was a prophet. I don't remember meeting him, but I know his voice well from the tapes I heard all my life. My parents left right before he died, they tol
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Northerngate, Please don't feel like you're walking on eggshells here. You had some connection to and knowledge of TLWF. Your growing up sounds very cult-like. I'm so sorry. What people do to others in the name of religion is so sad. I agree with you about the similarities between cults. I read Cults Inside Out, too. It has great information that gives insight and perspective.
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kBOY, right you are. The only reason anyone got more than a glance was if an individual had something that G&M needed or wanted. Otherwise, it was Potatoville for you, as Onion has indicated on several occassions.
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Onion and JJJ, yes, my memories are blurring together. There was no balcony during the seventies and the elevator was from the nineties. As for the alternate entrance/exit, it was probably there so that G&M could enter and exit without rubbing shoulders with or feeling obligated to speak with the peons who paid for everything and did the work. They behaved very much as royalty. No dish room e
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Onion, or maybe that apartment wasn't fabulous enough and they had to build a new one with a balcony. ; )
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JJJ, that sounds right, but it's been about forty years since I was in there. Lol. Anyone else know? I definitely remember the elevator. Yes, peasants...that sounds correct too. Was it a balcony sort of like the one at the Vatican?
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Quote Posted by: JesusJesusJesus Date: December 01, 2019 04:47PM I must admit, I took the opportunity to poke around in places I'd never been in before, including Gary and Marily's apartment (and its strange back-door walkway to the elevator and an exit) and all of the offices downstairs, especially the central files cavern behind a vault door behind a closet door in the back of an
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NancyB, changedagain, puddington, Onion, typer, Cloudwatcher, Larry Bobo, kBOY, Imapurple, Chachakitty, and so many other contributers to this forum, thank you for speaking up. Thank you for speaking the truth about the harm that TLWF caused. Even if there are still people who are too damaged to get out, it doesn't change the truth. Maybe one day they will reach their limit, and we will be h
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Every post brings more clarity into just how poisonous TLWF and its leaders have been and still are. I hope and pray that all the victims come out into true freedom.
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Yes, let's face it, they (the Apostle to the Kingdom and The Apostolic Fathering Ministries) were/are all bad. They deserve each other. P.S. Is Mercury in retrograde or something? Lol!
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Onion, I know that JRS always drank, but I think it got to the level of always being drunk after Marilyn became his 24/7 companion. What do you think? Also, my impression was that Martha left in 1978. I'm so glad that you spoke with Mary Christine. <3 Happy Thanksgiving, one and all.
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Can you imagine what a bummer it was for JRS when December 1979 rolled around and no Kingdom? What to do with all the ginormous tubs of soybeans? Ah, give them to Kingdom business workers. They don't have any food. And JRS was using the KB credit cards to live high on the hog. But what if someone should find out that he made up the whole trip to the future scam? No problem. He wouldn'
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Chachakitty and Northerngate: I meant to add to my above post that the control was more extreme for children whose parents were in the Walk and for those born into it.
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That's a complicated question, Northerngate. Limiting choices, options and free will were common tactics used on members. People were told to submit every life decision. Once you were "given a word from God", what choice did you have? You could rebel, but your entire belief system and social network would come crashing down. Members were regularly encouraged to break off "natu
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Oh, you mean the one that was already not "keeping her spirit in her sneakers" around Gary Hargrave while her husband was dying? Excellent point, kBOY. ; )
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Quote Posted by: puddington () Date: November 27, 2019 08:25AM Reep, I’m thinking about John on his deathbed. I imagine, in a moment of clarity, he looked around the room and saw only his groupies. People he had created by feeding them fairy tales. And other people that wanted his power. It must have dawned on him that these people didn’t REALLY love him. They just wanted something from him.
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