aww....that's so sad creepy but very encouraging! I'm glad that David and Margaret are out! thnx for sharing this! QuotewendyjduncanJohn Ayliffe gives three rules of guidance - don’t fight them, give them love, and be patient. John and David Ayliff have published My Brother’s Eyes (John Garrett Publishing) which chronicles the involvement of David Ayliff and his wife Margaret in the
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I wished that I hadn't been such a freakout when trent first handed me "the letters" in 07. instead i was fearful, critical, emotionally crazy, judgmental and pushed him away. i see that now. i'm not gonna say whose @ more fault because we both made mistakes and we're both accountable to God. this is about me coming to realize that i've pushed trent away & i regr
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@ cultaware. I saw it. What do you think?
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QuotecultawareViewed Trent and Jayse's last you tube video this morning? Does it mean anything or just stringing people along? QuotephillyWhere did you view their video? I don't watch them so I know nothing that you are taking about. (((hugs)))
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LLG? Do you think that anyone who reads these "letters" can get sucked into trumpetcallofgod?
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llg, BEING REAL & FEELING A BIT NUMB thnx very much for your response! i was wondering if you felt lonely in your marriage? or what was it that you were "missing" or "looking" for in trumpetcallofgod cult? u have answered this b/4 but i can't help but wonder if trent wasn't getting some of his needs met with me and so he turned to "the letters" Ti
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LLG, wow!!! the first thing that comes to mind is I did NOT want Trent to create the gracehead website @ all. I told him that I felt bad things were gonna become of it. in the beginning, the yrs 05 & 06 trent was writing and posting great stuff on gracehead in fact he had many of our friends and family enjoying his posts etc. sometime in late 06 early jan 07, a man named lyn (apparently tr
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LLG! Awesome quote! Can you tell me how you got into this cult. What drew you to them? Do you practice the Sabbath or feasts? Who recruited you? What were you looking for?
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QuoteSparkyThe Scientologists (who are rabid atheists and believe Christians are idiots confused by brain-washing from 'Body Thetons') provided the information that Trent and the Trumpeters took and ran with. I guess Satan deceived The Trumpet Call of God. Funny how Satan could NOT deceive Christ whom the Tumpeters and Timothy claim gives them wisdom (Epic Fail in this case, folks).
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do y'all know who "truthbetold" is? they sound strangely familiar. also i have alot to be proud of don't i? i don't wanna slam trent, timothy, or anyONE in this cult (but it's very hard for me NOT to) for known reasons. in any case, i wanna expose truth. any of you are free to say and do whatever. i am going to try and not slam any person in this cult and if i d
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if you wanna join us in our discussion we are over here @ . we are talking about cults and one in particular called trumpetcallofgod.
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QuotephillyQuote: LLG In fact, as scary as it sounds I would have probably given my life and even my own children’s welfare if I felt God wanted me to. My brother is very concerned about this possibility and is worried that our 'trumpeter' will lock us all in the house and do away with us when the 'gathering' doesn't come. It's such a worry that people can
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GREAT idea Philly! Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of God Trumpet Call of G
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those are all great questions philly and answers llg. my dear friend once got an email, from a member of this group, and to us it looked similar to the letters with misspelled words. so we both thought that it was probably amy since we heard that she does the typing of those letters of god. is trent the second in command of this ship or is amy? i also heard that timmy boy has quit writ
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:)
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i know of a specific member that last summer chose to depart the "flock" when his wife divorced him. he ended up choosing his wife & children but still believes in the letters. recently, he was told that he was to be kicked out because he didn't attend the lord's supper on a regular basis. this threw him into a tailspin of depression & stirred up much within their fami
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it makes no sense what so ever. that's why i really believe that these ppl have been brainwashed because it is so easy to see the lies, fraud, evil, incompressible "letters" written in old english. i've always thought that amy is the brains behind this operation. well, you know who i am trumpeters of god. i mean you no harm but you are ruining many many ppl's lives
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rrmoderator thank you for those links! LLG here is the list of 8 point model. can you put in each one an example of what they did or letters? list of Robert Jay Lifton's 8 Point Model of Thought Reform: 1. ENVIRONMENT CONTROL. Limitation of many/all forms of communication with those outside the group. Books, magazines, letters and visits with friends and family are taboo. "
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i just reordered Steve's book on mind control. i lent it out to a friend and have never received it back. i can't wait to get it!!!! is anyone else reading anything?
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Philly, funny you mentioned her cuz i was just thinking about her bob and the other person that posted. no i haven't heard from her again. i wonder too how she is.
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QuoteLLGI basically feel what I have to do is start from scratch almost, I don't know what's up from down anymore and the only way I know how to do it is to take one step at a time. Look at one doctrine "what do I believe is the truth" search scripture research the many varying opinions and search scripture some more until the Lord shows me, then move on to the next. Its like
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Rathbun, Speed & Amy 811 E 7th St Hastings, NE 68901 I can't find 811 only 808 & higher
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ok. Thnx for sharing how to do that. On sunday, I'll work on that. Sry all...
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LLG! awesome! Great info!!!!!
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philly thnx 4 the heads up! I'm also VERY appreciative for LLG's inside info! I'll message you all!
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Good question or point...although I'm sure you are not implying these self-appointed "prophet" hubby & wifey team are like Timothy Speed Rathbun & Amy Rathbun? Huh?? EXACTLY!!! Well, Mr. Trent's Sept. 9th rapture prediction didn't exactly pan out like he had hoped. Tonight I tried asking him to nail a def date & he didn't "feel" like talk
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Oh my... why has this been removed.... Is someone in Timmy boy's company getting a little nervous? Frogla, would you care to ask Trent why this was removed? yes.. i will ask *sighs* as i beat my head up against the wall* Maybe Timothy was "raptured" to a jailhouse. LOL Why doesn't Trent even care or has a million reasons that stupid man and wifey are makin
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Please pray for me because Trent wants me to join in with him to observe this feast of Trumpets which starts today and it lasts until sundown on thursday. Its like a Sabbath but they don't have to fast. i don't understand it all. i do not wanna participate with trent and i need prayer to be able to lovingly and respectfully testify to what i know to be truth, to make a stand, and to
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This is what Trent sent to me today: Trent wrote read this and call me right away, OK?: [09/07/10] Timothy: Thus says The Lord! Hear the sound of My voice and give heed to My words! [09/07/10] Timothy: Thus says The Lord your God, YaHuWaH, yes I am your Salvation and Savior, YahuShua [09/07/10] Timothy: Thus says Elohim [09/07/10] Timothy: TODAY! My sons and daughters... all who have ea
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trent believes that all the "letters" from ole timmy boy and his wifey are 100% true. so he won't say that after this such and such date if the rapture doesn't happen then timmy's a falsy. is it wrong for me to wanna know if timmy's gonna stick with 2011 or change the rules once again and say 2013? i'm tired and don't know if i wanna hang on till 2013 i
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