QuoteLLGI don't believe Tim's experience is supposed to be the rapture, I think its more of a leading up to it. I'm not clear on why Tim was supposed to go but the rapture was not the same event, the rapture should encompass more than one person (unless noone is worthy except Tim of course, but I find that hard to believe). you would think that more people would be gone or disapp
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QuoteLLGI hope that helps, I'm not saying you are unholy or rebellious, just that it is a mindset of the cult to believe that those not accepting the letters are in essence rejecting "God's Prophet" and "God's message", and we were to stay away from them. thank you for this explanation. it does help. with tim disappearing and then reappearing, will that ma
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@salehsaleh, i'm curious of your theory why trent might have to wait for guidence b/cause of my rebellion. Also, what do you mean by he might be headed towards timothy? literally to meet with timothy or talke his place @ the helm? @LLG I'm witholding judgement criticisms etc. So by timothy's standards if I haven't already believed full throttle in the letters then I'm
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@LLG & SalehSaleh something is going on behind the scenes with thses guys. Who runs the show? Timothy or Trent or both? Trent has blocked me from all emails, phone, & txting. He said we are separate & that he doesn't want to see me for awhile. Then he said only for a couple of days & now I can't reach him. Is he with Timothy? Has he disappeared like Speedothy has? I'
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QuotecultawareHave any trumpeters said what happens if the rapture doesn't happen when it should? Will they unwind the group and admit error? Will they set a new date? only one "flocker" that i know of is willing to say if by jan 1st 2012 if the rapture hasn't happened then he will renounce. now getting him on video saying that would be gr8. we are working on that. the wife
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we should have a magazine like "The Onion" with snarky cartoons & comments of timothy as a villain in a speedo (a friend of mine calls him speedo man) lol QuoteSparkyGet ready folks...your loved ones may be soon coming home to you and your hearts. You may need pastors and therapists to help undo the damage the scumbag Rathbun has done to them. it's usually how cults work.
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I was informed that Timothy has been called away from the flock and will no longer be available for question or Bible studies. He also told "flockers" to trumpet Jesus and only the wrath of God and also not to go to the churches because their time is up and THE LORD has shut the door on them.......yeah right.
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SalehSaleh can you clear out some of your mail? Thanks a bunch!
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@SalehSaleh I saw that video posted somewhere else and was astonished that 50% of the participants each time years apart let the volts get up to about 400 volts. Geroge Orwell wrote a book called 1984 about informational conformity with The Party. I'm considering getting it to read. Everyone should watch the youtube video that SalehSaleh put up because it really does explain why we humans ob
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thank you salehsaleh for the very informative & educational info about "mind control" the power of suggestion & peer pressure. You seem to be doing some stuff for your recovery. You are doing good.(hug) I met a bunch of, what I thought were sincere, for the Lord & maybe some where, college aged peeps. I realized later they were very cult like hyper fundy church ppl who wante
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good question LLG to LoveDreamer. Thnx!
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has anyone heard from this guy personally for me it's tricky to write about trumpet & build better marriage. Maybe the best for me is to concentrate on exposing "cults" in general & how they are destructive, controlling, etc. any thoughts? where is everybody?
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This is an interesting article. Has anyone heard of this author?
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epic fail!
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Yes and thank you so much! I feel like a weight has lifted now that I get it! It took me long enuf. :p
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@sparky I have been wanting to get a list of other end times groups who've predicted so thnx for this! I know it's not an ehaustive list but it's a start. have they added any new letters recently? Also, have we here on this forum decided when trumpet has predicted the rapture where "poof" we are gone? Is it this year or by 2018? I wish that the letters weren'
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t seems to me that you and LLG are saying 2 different things. she says a study guide says QuotellgThe final return of the Lord would be 7 years later in 2018, but if noone disappears in 2011 then they would have some serious explaining to do. you are saying that Quotesparkythat he will be will us through the Trib to help others. s so i'm still confused as to when they will be raptured i
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@LLG so what do you mean by this TQuoteLLGhe final return of the Lord would be 7 years later in 2018 Are you saying that @ the beginning of the last week which is 2011 starts the 7 yr tribulation period? Also, are you saying that when 2012 does come Jan 1st 2012 that if Trent or Timothy aren't raptured then they have some explaining to do? sry but this is so confusing to me. *going to look u
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@LLG so if the lord doesn't return sometime this year then will it be obvious and an end to this? @sparky now i c how you got the name sparky. LOL
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@everyone on this thread, i'm sry for being such a knucklehead but when did timothy trent and the other flock ppl say the rapture is? This year or 2018?
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@RichBlessings, I am so glad that you are speaking out for your cousin Emily. I've heard her name mentioned alot in convos with my husband. i've also seen some of her videos and have read her myspace page. she knows my husband very well in fact they met up with some other flock members this past saturday. if there's anything that i can do to help plz feel free to ask. Blessings!!
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@Sparky, I read this and i was blown away and conflicted. i hope that everyone had a gr8 Christmas and New Year celebration. I was sick traveled and sick some more so it was a pretty crappy time. although i traveled to my folks new diggs and had a very unstressful time what did everyone do for their holday? @RichBlessings, welcome to our thread. Are you cousins with Emily who now lives with
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ReadTheBook, We have been patiently answering your questions and responding to your posts. We want the same respect from you. This is NOT a thread of debate. This is a forum of recovery from destructive cults and groups. Are you here for that purpose? Do you need help with anything? If not then why are you here? Look if you want to believe in "The Letters" of Timothy then that'
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QuotesalehsalehThe main "counselor" / sermon giver was raised in a cult, anytime you have a question you are directed to him for counseling, Timothy will not answer your questions most of the time he has someone else do it for him. do you know who this is? it sounds like you do. also, how do you know that they were raised in a cult? has "the flock" said that? interesting inf
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QuoterrmoderatorIf "the end" has not come by say 2013 will you reject Rathbun as a false prophet? rrmoderator? why do you say by 2013? is that the new year cuz I thought it was 2012.
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thnx LLG! :)
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LLG your inbox if full!
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OK. Trent & I spoke about what James said in their study so that's cleared up. But what I cannot understand is why he used our comments on his blog without asking us. That feels like a violation. Anyway, I wanna be speak the truth in love on this site. I was @ one time very sarcastic critical and angry. I've laid all of that down. It wasn't doing me or Trent any good. I
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It has come to my attention that someone is posing as Aaron Thomas and telling lies about me on the trumpet call of god studies that I laugh @ my husband. I do not laugh @ my husband in fact I take my marriage very seriously and am working on making it better & better. What you are saying doesn't seem loving @ all.
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LLG, What does Saleh mean by this QuotesalehsalehI don't want to scare anyone...but, the koolaid is looking migggghty sweet from over here and I would know, I was a former sipper. I also love these 2 verses: It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.-Galatians 5:1 There is therefore now no cond
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