LampShmamp Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I believe that the assumption that we need > periodic updates regarding the number of page > views to date is incorrect. Just saying. sorry about that Initially my intent was to poke fun at this kind of obsession...but then it took a life of its own.
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301,384 page views to date...
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SouthGate Wrote: > I remember Gary denying in South Gate that he was > going to marry Marilyn. Interesting...but not surprising. Didn't this guy once have some integrity?
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Welcome to the group, kbyrne. > For several years, when things struck me as strange, I > just filed them away as something I didn't > understand. When people left, like the Corbetts > and then the Finneys, I just wondered why, but > never questioned it. And sadly, I never saw them > again, so I couldn't even ask them what had > happened. That experi
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FCSLC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe G-man could give a message about forgetting > Submission, he could go on a roll. Yes I've read from a few posters on this forum, familiar with his early days, stating he rose quickly up the authority chain after joining the fellowship in SD. One poster said he was an assistant pastor within 6 months. If
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Shouted over the PA system: (VIP Ministry Name) REPORT FOR KITCHEN DUTY NOW! YOU ARE ALREADY 10 MINUTES LATE!! YOU ARE SUCH AN A**HOLE!! HURRY UP!!!
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NickleandDimed: "I remember Easter at Shiloh hearing my name shouted on PA system to report for kitchen duty. Spent the previous day hooking beans." It would have been amusing if someone shouted a ministries' name on the PA system to report for kitchen duty, knowing full well they would never stoop to such menial labor. A definite one-way ticket to Shunnedville for this rebel.
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Easter Egg Hunt in the spirit of TLWF: Top ministries pretend to hide eggs. There really are no eggs--it's all a cruel sham. Eager, enthusiastic kids search in vain for eggs, eventually all coming back with empty baskets. They are then gathered together and solemnly informed that the Easter Bunny is very disappointed with them, and is so frustrated they should be worried about the possib
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Cloudwatcher Wrote: > Yes, the beatdown. We know all about that now > don't we. So glad it is not my life. How would the people know they are loved without first being beaten? Glad it is not my life.
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kBOY Wrote: > Delivered From The Gods That Control Us > > Posted on April 13, 2017 > by Silas Esteves > > > 4/delivered-gods-control-us/ > > (Are we finally talking about deliverance from TLW > leadership?) That's what it should be, kBoy. Perhaps a more apt title: 'Delivered from The Living Word Hierarchy That Has Controlled Us'
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lily rose Wrote: > I think people who subscribe to the Word of Faith > teachings, that man controls his own destiny > through his words and power of his faith..similar > to what JRS taught, can't help but be full of > themselves. Love, compassion, and empathy don't > really fit into that mindset. Yes
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NickleandDimed-I'm more concerned about being > dragged off of a United Airlines flight than being > evangelized here. If I happen to be on a United Airlines flight seated next to someone unwilling to listen to my journey, I believe I should have the right to drag them off the plane--even after take-o
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297,557 page views as of today. It seems people are not turned off by our tiffs. The public is not shunning us!
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SouthGate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > lily rose Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > changedagain Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > I was born a poor black child. I remember the > > > days, sitting on the porch with
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I was born a poor black child. I remember the days, sitting on the porch with my family, singing and dancing down... Wait...this is someone else's journey. Please disregard.
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I doubt the G-man would pass up the opportunity to > become a bishop or a cardinal in the Catholic > church--he seems to be on the fast-track. John would be so proud of him!
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NickleandDimed Wrote: > Dan followed G&M's wishes. But other > big fish pastors and shepherds also mistreated > members. Without G&M knowledge. Some enjoyed it. true
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NickleandDimed Wrote: > Then, easy to > say. The responsibility falls on G&M. They > presumably gave the order. That excuse used > by Nazi leaders during their trails. IMO obeying > orders doesn't eliminate responsibility. No, it doesn't, NickleandDimed. But I've observed how G & M would hide behind others doing the dirty work...so mentioned what sho
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It's not really a label, more of an identity thing...but some time before the lamp directed my wife to kill my male nature, she told me I was a 'piss ant.' I don't think she meant it as a compliment...like the comic book character Mighty Mighty Piss Ant. At least I didn't take it that way. p.s. I have so much more to write, but partially due to a 21 yr. commitment to
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "An enemy of the church". Now that's an honor !!! > : ) > > I was labeled a "vessel of satan". I never got a label. I was hoping some authority would refer to me as 'Anak's best friend'--but alas, it was not to be. :)
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FCSLC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The “mind” you’re describing seems for the > most part nearly identical to the one I’ve been > fighting against and trying to destroy for the > past thirty-plus years. When you were labeled "an enemy of the church" by Miller, presumably representing G & M, and conditioned like most of us to
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291,262 page views to date... (not that I pay attention to this kind of stuff)
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In his teachings, John carefully cultivated an environment where he could control the minds of the congregants--and have them believe and do things they probably would have regarded as absolute lunacy before joining the Walk. Think of how many times he would warn the congregation of the dangers of being independent...& the futility of searching the scriptures, apart from authority, to find di
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Howmidoing, I appreciate your courage in being so upfront about your experience in TLWF. Obviously, you should not have had to go through this. Unconscionable. The place has been, and still is, a travesty--on all levels. That is my humble opinion :) Meanwhile, Gary is focusing on bringing oneness to the Christian world. If anyone is capable and worthy of doing this--it is him. I shudder to thin
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Thanks for sharing this light777. May your family be restored. light777 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have not been on this forum in quite some > time... I see new posters, old posters... and > still, the common thread is the abuse that we ALL > suffered and continue to suffer. When I left, it > was quiet, as I had moved away... In
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pbxguy wrote: "The largest tragedy is that TLW continues to thrive, to whatever extent. What a shame." Yes--headed by a guy that can't, or won't, relate in a civil fashion to most people he encounters...likely has no regrets on the consequences of his vicious treatment of people in TLWF (leaders and 'little people' alike)...and yet has decided that he is an answ
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Excellent observations. SouthGate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NickleandDimed Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Lily, many individuals and families like > Sandjt's > > were blown to smithereens. Heard men who left > the > > fellowship, ex-ministries, talk about the > r
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I wonder how long it would take to drive from L.A. to Mother Mary and St. Jude Thaddeus Parish in Padre Miguel, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil? It would be a bummer to drive the entire distance and not get there in time.
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Tmason Wrote: > As a nod to the intended purpose of this site a > message for all aspiring potential cult members: > If you don't want to be trolling some obscure BB > (fifty years from now) looking for psychiatric > help from others no better suited to give it than > you, DON'T JOIN A CULT! Hey, this message board had over 286,000 page views. IT IS A VIP
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