QuoteWhy is it that people expect spirituality to be free? Get out!! She asked that? She thinks it's about spirituality???? ROFLMFAO!
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I doubt there can be any reliable statistics since most operate in the open and people don't believe they are cults, and some work more covertly and are only exposed when something happens to bring attention to them.
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Who, exactly, do they hope to recruit? There are the Cubans who can't afford it, and the tourists who come via Canada and Mexico and other parts, who can. Why would they go to Cuba to take LE courses? And what is this person's intent? To save Cubans living under Castro. To empower them? To change their story about what their being? The motive for carrying out such a complex
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Kittypaw, Thank you - excellent summary and I appreciate all the time and work it took you to put it into one place. Corboy, your reply also is right on the mark. All the jargon and judgement about who's judging, if one is merely driven by rackets or winning formula leads the participant to constant analysis of everything they say and do. They're supposed to lose their filters,
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How about being a clearing for something? One of the reviewers was confiding in me at the Tues closing that he wanted to be a clearing for whatever his committment was. I later asked the woman sitting next to me what he meant and when did they talk about it. She said it was brought up a few times during the Forum. I must have fallen asleep during the clearing conversation, because I see i
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A reviewer told me it's half price.
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I suspect that everyone who shared in my Forum were plants or reviewers. At the beginning of the Forum, some of the reviewers were asked to stand so they could be identified, which was also a way to sell the Forum. They claimed the Forum was so useful and powerful that they come back every 2-5 yrs to review. However, on Tuesday night, when the mood was lighter and we were allowed to really
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The free intro nights are a very, very watered down version of portions of the Forum. It's almost like being at an Oprah show. Someone is chosen from the audience who wants to get a handle on a dilemma she's having at work - in my intro night, it was a lady who worked with someone who had a PhD. She deferred to him all the time because he had a PhD and she had not yet completed her B
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Enrollment - LEC goes on about enrollment and enrolling others for a long time before someone gets offended (probably a plant acting that eh\she is offended). The Forum leader incredulously asks the audience if they really thought he meant "enrolling people or getting more people to sign up: because that's not what enrollment is. Enrollment, according to LEC, is being involved and get
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My Landmark leader answered a participant's question about est's relation to the forum by not answering the question at all - lots of smoke and mirrors. What I have noticed with former est grads is an arrogance about them, that they went through est, which they feel is so much better because it's more in-your-face. Some have said the Forum is for pussies. There was so much scand
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Parkito, You sound more like a survivor than a victim. Consider yourself fortunate for seeing the forum for the sham that it is. There is a lot of great info here, as Corboy pointed out, that will help you understand what really happens in a Landmark "Education" seminar - how they mess with your normal human expectations and they screw with your mind all the while telling you t
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I found the video tape of Chris Butler preaching to his devotees absolutely disgusting. He was so arrogant, condescending, judgemental, even anti-Christian, that I found it hard to believe this quiet, seemingly kind man who was my meditation teacher would listen to a word he said (little did I know at the time about mind control). When the camera panned the audience, there was my teacher, obvio
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I've witnessed my doctor stare at people in the most intense, bone-chilling way. This stare is also considered a trait of sociopaths, which there is no doubt my doctor was. We were on the steps of Riverside Church waiting in line to get in to see Thich Nat Hahn (sp?) and doc spotted a young woman standing nearby and fixed his gaze on her. It was not a lustful gaze or leering by any means,
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I took meditation "classes" at the NJ School of Meditation for a few months a couple years ago. I'm trying to locate the pamphlets I was given after several weeks of doing chant meditation. After several sessions, the teacher started talking about spiritual beliefs, the Bagavad Gita, threw in a little bit about homosexuality being sinful. This was weird because I'm a straig
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I wonder at what level these companies are enrolled. My husband works for one of them and can't recall ever hearing anyone mention Landmark, however, it could be disguised as something else.
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Can you explain the deception to your credit card company (put it in writing) with documentation? Like any other product or service that is misrepresented or defective, credit card companies will often support their customers in getting refunds.
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You can get help finding a lawyer at
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How much attention is paid to Christ's resurrection in the movie?
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The Personal Dynamics workshops are founded as well in the philosophical thinking of modern Western philosophers such as Martin Heidegger, Soren Kierkegaard, and Jean-Paul Sartre. The premise of the Personal Dynamics workshops is the idea that human beings are not fixed entities with fixed characteristics, but rather that, to a great extent, we have the capacity to design ourselves, our behavior,
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I'll start a new thread, though on this. Sorry for the detour.
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Do a search (icon on top right) and you will find some posts from July.
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The Zen "poet" could very well be Alan Watts, a friend of Werner. In "Beyond Theology", Watts writes about games, play, work, constrasts of leisure, labour, rhythm (play), nonrhythm (nonplay). I'll read further and see if there is something similar to the Zen quote.
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QuoteCan somebody please let me know what "integrity regarding my health and well being" means? Just curious. Perhaps a former Landmarkian could elaborate on the word "integrity" or what the heck this person meant. NYC - Great stuff you've posted. Thanks. As a Forum "grad" and one who was doing LE unknowingly via a Landmarkian doctor, I'll take a stab
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I googled PD and didn't come up with much, even in Groups. Have you done any reading on LGATS of RickRoss.com? It's really helpful. We're a helpful bunch here, too. It doesn't matter what LGAT your hubby is involved with - they all run them the same way. Keep posting. I'm glad he got out. He doesn't have to read his daughter's emails if she's not re
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The Mankind Project started sending me emails back in July. This is a copy of the post I had here back then... Has anyone been to this? They were advertising online that a seminar is being held in NYC. I looked up the home page and it sounds so much like Landmark Education that I did a little research. Nothing really suspicious came up, except that a Cliff Barry, who founded Shadow Work Semin
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It looks pretty much like a typical estLandmark spinoff. Start off by doing a search on RickRoss.com on Landmark and read all you can. The only answer right now you have to give these recruiters is that you choose not to sign on. Stand your ground. Be silent once you say that. On this forum, read what Guy, GC, Cosmophilosopher, Corboy and others have to say about LE. It will fit PD like a g
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So given the new dialect Landmarkians use, the possibility (sorry) that they only want to stick with their own, and the inclusion of LE on resumes and use of jargon in the workplace, the result of participation actually limit a grad's dating or employment field. I know two participants who lost their jobs DURING a forum weekend because they decided to reveal their rackets to their employe
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then is that there is nothing "WRONG" with you. The entire forum is about rackets, winning formulas, lack of integrity, not being authentic, but there is nothing really wrong here (because there is no right, no wrong, no good, no bad). Health problems are really about being powerless in some part of life. There are no victims only folks who have difficulty with taking responsibilit
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There was no repetition like the presentation you were given. However, regardless, the idea that humans give meaning to situations and experiences is something that was not anything new to me. It's a rather normal thing to do. (BTW - I did get a full refund.) You may have read in prior posts that a doctor I went to was heavily involved in LE. He used their tech as Tx on me, without d
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