Welcome GoingRouge, I recently joined. I am old with a head full of beans to spill but not all the answers.
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes puddington. I went on only one herb picking > trip to pick chaparral in the desert. When we got > to the bushes, Rocky said to throw rocks under the > bushes to chase away the rattle snakes. I have > always had an irrational fear of snakes and > sharks. I think I remember getting a migraine and
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GSchaeff Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Larry, > I largely agree, although I think there's a middle > ground. I believe I tried reading Woodrow Nichols' > book at one point in the 90s. It was easy to write > off as you said, I believe the individual who > showed it to me simply explained that Nichols did > not "have a r
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Hi Tknc thank you for your reply. "sympathetic spirit towards the devastated people" Wow! when i write about some of these things those kind of phrases pop into my head. Oh my where is the love when people who are strugling to survive from a disaster need empathic help. narasists have no empathy. yep an "evil psych term" that describes toxic people who need power and c
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Thanks NickleandDimed You are absolutley correct. JRS was enabled by people who should have known better. All that got me on the prayer for my eeath on the Jez/ Neph list. My father in law who was there should have known better. I had to get out of there with my girls and go hide at my sisters in who was still in the walk in another city. I supposed she stayed because she had close friends.
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louanne, you wrote abo Waco, TX and the Branch Davidian. I don't know ho wmany at Shiloh were aware of something that happened aroudn '77 when I was warehoused there after having a nervous break down from never having enough sleep when I worked a graveyard as an RN. I was a just exhausted not crazy. Many loving woman at Shiloh help me ot recover. Yes, 98% good. There times when J
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I knew jrs since I was child in the late'50's. I am convinced with out a doubt that JRS loved the word of God. He dedicated his youth to learning the word and sharing the word. Probably to the point as a youth he did not have a balance in hiw life where he successfully completed normal developmentla stages as he should have. ( That is my RN training speaking. Not a prophetic word. He
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You know that if Gary & Marilyn were not busy > administering the Kingdom, they would be right out > there with you: cutting the rose bushes, weeding > in the lagoon, scrubbing the toilets with a tooth > brush etc. > You sound like a whiner, who can't handle a little > discipli
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New Day I am so sorry this post is over 2 years old and i could not have sent you my love for your courage to write this. Yet, my heart goes out to you for your honest insight. I am about 12 years odler than you, so you probably never knew me,( iowa girl) but maybe you did my sisters...doesn't matter. I think it is very important for some to hear a different perspective from that of thos
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JezTheBelle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Let me begin by saying that it will not be > possible for me to become a part of the community > that you all have developed here. My anonymity is > of utmost importance, firstly, as I have family in > TLWF who have been there more than 40 years. It is > too late and of no use to try and interfer
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In retrospect, it is amazing just how many actions > were taken ‘in the name of God’ that were not only > devoid of LOVE, but were downright harmful. It > seems that on almost every level, doctrine would > always take priority. > > Although never having the pleasure, the ‘probe’ > was just one
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Trying to find that link to Refelctions of the Wall I foudn a vry interesting history. I already knew the basic history of JRS because his father pastored my home town church. I thought that some migt find the extra widipeida histories etc might be enlightening as to where some concepts taught in the walk came from rather that "divine revelations" but plagarism, in my opinion.
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i would like to be a fly on the wall to actually have seen some things. A few statement remind me of MM stories where the foudn of a n MLM take big selelrs on a crusie. The will say something to the affect, " Oh my diamonds are so heavy. Will you hold them for me for a bit?" The Wife would walk awy leaving a new mm recriut holding the jewelry. Then they go home to tell the mazing st
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was just listening to a pastor from Brazil speak > to a small group of men. He was asked, “What is > the greatest obstacle you currently face?” I was > surprised to hear that it was overcoming the > spiritual abuse inflicted by evangelical > Christians. I knew Brazilian politics and the >
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I know this post and thread is few years old. I find it interesting that so matter the cult the 1970's is mentioned often. Another common thread is leaders came from Four Square. I iwll assumed most wer defrocked as they had more radica words that did not stay with in their established doctrine. My late ex husbands grand father was four Square. As was my late ex father in law. The fou
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Does any one know wher the book keeping is? Has any one checked the local court houses for sale of property records? Has anyone checked debt collector reports or for church bankruptsy? If there were any profits from sale of church property who took the money?Any one know of the names of their local church board of trustees. I would think a local court house could enlighten some of us. Chu
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Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here is a living word by Brother Stevens: > > After all, we is all brothers, in that great > paternity, the MYSTIC KNIGHTS OF THE SEA, and we > has got to take a united front, for it’s all for > one, and one for all.” > > > George, Kingfish, Stevens, of the Mystic Knights > o
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There is no doubt that many church of the Living Word memembers during the jrs era would have ptsd. If still, alive which members may have no conscience about more than honest mistakes? There were many very good men and families in the early churches. What role did they play in the really over the line indiscretions and lie cover ups? whye were some folks exempt from confessing in front of the c
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I ran some of these issues by a knowledabe friend. One word I said to him I had used above as I was quoting what others have stated not only on this forum but face to face and I did not put in quotes as I should have. The word "slave labor". can not be edited to a more approirate term now. My friend called me on the words"slaves labor" I apologize... I know that may people
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WOW! Exellent. You really pulled this together on one page. Thank you "The Narcissistic Family by Pressman and Pressman. Slim and readable, describes in family systems how a family unconsciously seeks to preserve its image of itself at expense of honesty and children's normal development." I have recently begung to suspect this in some similar form. I ahve a theory, peronal n
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I was still recovering from The Walk when I met Grace Lucia Rose in Iowa City Iowa. She taught How to Be a Psychic classes through Kirkwood in '80' and '90's She tired to start up a new following in mid 2000's. She gave psychic readings for $20 to regular clients. ( She laughed behind their back at the crap she made up.) She gave metahsycial talks in local groups.
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I would like to see more open dialog as well. People simply may not be ready to expose themselves. Keep on talking on how you are healing. If you have missing puzzles pieces in your situation, keep asking.
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Chritian Tabernacle JRS home town church: Shiloh; the Walk: Church of the Living Word;
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kajern Our paths may have crossed. I was raised in Iowa as was jrs. I am so sorry what happened to you. the fact We did survive does not fix the scars. I have had a lot of therapy. But,Unless a therapist is familiar with cults I have not gotten everything thing I have needed. But, more and more therapists are being trained on this line. I think there are some personal issues we need t
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I am so sorry this happened to you. You are not alone. What you wrote shows very similar destructive patterns of behavior among the far too many groups that are cults disguised a releigion. I hope you find closure that you need. By coming fowrad, you have shined some light for others who need closure or the strength to walk away.
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I know this is almost 7 year old post. I was not in your state. I do know who you are talking about by way of the walk. I would to connect as this is sadly a pattern of behavior I am trying to gather on the jrs kingdom to say the least on line. Watch out for wolves. Much love from an old timer
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I a going to open Pandora's box and I need yoru help to move quickly as we can. My son was is kingdom school during the reign of jrs in the walk/ church of the lving word. My son was one of too many that were beaten. Sure there were some good teachers, but they did nothing to stop abuse that happened to some children. ( Any one know how many kingdom teachers over all who actually had
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larry lobo you wrote " I personaly believe John's interest in the occult resulted in open doors that were never meant to be opened in our Christian walk" i agree. I wonder if newer folks knew about the witch. In mid 60's a practicing witch was in the Valley, I think. That church building was new. When I made a visit she was there. Please correct any memory mistakes. S
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------- > > I suspect the people are so accustomed to being > > beaten down by his "living word," the idea that > > there is a God that is not driven to lay heavy > > burdens upon them must seem like heresy (Matt
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well, hi folks. Today my husband received an > unsigned letter with no return address in the > mail, postmarked HONOLULU, HI > > Here is what they wrote. Please give me your > thoughts, or let me know if this has ever happened > to you. > > "Husband's Name, > > I k
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