LampShmamp Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >(indeed, many here thoughtfully > maintain the whole Jesus thing is overrated) Many? Been reading all posts. It's more like. Some. A few. Also, read the strand on why do ex cult members turn from the Bible, a quote from Rick Ross 3/3/07, "Some people that were abused through religion and or the Bi
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howmidoing, Don't mean to pooh on you but don't think letters from ex-members will sway G, Holbrook. The other brainwashed pastors. What might sway them (not sure). Pressure from local churches/pastors in their area. About holding family members hostage. Even to that. G might say F...you.
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pbxguy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > When someone is experiencing dreams that are > traumatic to the point of acting out in sleep... There are a number of > techniques that can produce very positive results. > I had reoccurring nightmares of men wearing masks. Chasing me with swords. I read about a technique. Recall the dream throug
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PBS News Hour is running a 5 part piece on PTSD. It started yesterday.
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > lily rose – We tend to think forgiveness is > about the other person, when in fact we are the > ones who are set free. It opens the door for God > to be active in the other person’s life as well > – and He is far more merciful than we would be. > The prayers of a right spirit are very powerful.
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > REPACKAGED FOR A NEW UNSUSPECTING > GENERATION: > > - - - - - > > "Fulfill The Original Vision Of The School Of > Prophets" > > March 25, 2017 — Saturday — by Gary Hargrave > > ill-the-original-vision-of-the-school-of-prophets/ > Last night I brought a message tit
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filthy apron Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Howamidoin' > I don't know what to say but thanks for being > brave and resilient! My sentiments, also, howmidoin. Talking about the hurt. The pain. The injustice. Part of the therapy.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In his teachings, John carefully cultivated an > environment where he could control the minds of > the congregants--and have them believe and do > things they probably would have regarded as > absolute lunacy before joining the Walk. Think of > how many times he would warn the congregation of &
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BenTHare, if I had your checklist, maybe I wouldn't have gone back before finally leaving. Well done. Lily Rose, John was charlatan and deceived us all. Not everyone was burned by him. Still a sacred cow for them. I found it easier to shake off G&M BS garbage. Harder with the John BS garbage.
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I relate to your posts light777 and puddington. My mom was in the church for a short while. Dad made her leave. Never got to thank him for that. puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > You mention PTSD. I am interested in what the > symptoms are for post-LW PTSD. Maybe we should > list them. > > For me, it is a fea
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howmidoing Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > . > > > NICKELANDDIMED: Are you serious, that you are > scared and careful about what you post on here? > That makes me a little nervous. I want to be free > to talk here.... I'm open to PM messages and happy > to talk to anyone that wants an outlet. howmidoing, loyalty ran ve
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Cloudwatcher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NickleandDimed Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > lily rose Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > > My addiction was JRS science > > > fiction stuff, you know the
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Almost done reading older posts. FCSLC and dbc wrote below set off the PTSD. Miller called dbc, "An enemy of the church." BS. Actually, worse was said to others. Done 4-wheeling FCSLC. Great escape from the pain. FCSLC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > dbc wrote: “On another note - lots of talk > about John Miller. He led the APCO team th
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slandjt Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Dear howmidoing: How I wish I could hug you and > tell you I understand. So much of what you said > resonated with me. It took a wonderful therapist > specializing in mindfulness to understand me and > identify my need to feel safe. I had never heard > that before but she was complete
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Lily, many individuals and families like Sandjt's were blown to smithereens. Heard men who left the fellowship, ex-ministries, talk about the rejected ones with little empathy. These men get together to rekindle the camaraderie they once knew as ministries. An addiction. I don't know if the little people experienced the same shared camaraderie and loyalty as the ministries. Sandjt'
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howmidoing Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > After some research, I am realizing that much of > what I experience with emotional distress is > completely compliant with other ex-cult members > experiences of slowly healing. I am starting to > look into cult recovery therapy. Has anyone here > undergone any beneficial therapy? >
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > My addiction was JRS science > fiction stuff, you know the mystic and the > paranormal powers. Lily, you read my mind. Me too.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "I think part of the purpose of this forum is to > keep newcomers from being sucked into it...and to > help those who are trying to break free, even > though it's all they know." > > For clarification, I'm likening drug addiction to > the addiction of being enslaved to a
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Saw enough Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Feast of Purim is coming up. Which means that > just around the corner the flock can expect to > hear the annual messages comparing Marilyn to > Queen Esther who went before the King and > interceded to save the Jewish people from > destruction. Some of the more zealous faithful > will c
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Don't see anything here legitimizing Gary. Agree with Larry Bobo. The spell can be broken. Maybe, not for every member. Everyday, people on the planet escape traps and dictators. They start over. It's hard. It's do able. Friendships in the LW are phony. Based on conditional love. Manipulation. Not that hard to make new friends outside of the fellowship.
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Thank you changedagain and lily. Hadn't a clue about Todd Bentley's bio. According to John, Gary was Joshua. Leading the fellowship into the Kingdom. Not more bull sh*t.
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I’m encouraged by Gary’s efforts to reach out > to the Catholic Church. Hopefully, it will also > begin to extend to other Christian groups that > could really be a blessing to TLWF. Couldn't hurt. Less fellowship isolation. Big improvement over G&M outreach to cult leader moron Todd Bentley
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SouthGate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If I'm offending or pissing anyone off with my > post please speak up. If anyone wants me to quit > posting on here, please let me know also because I > will stop. Maybe this does help some of you so I > don't want to be responsible for adding to your > pain. You say you're not
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"Is Christ come in the flesh? And the issue is: Yes, Yes, He has.....You're claiming to be God. Of course we are." John Robert Steven response to accusations of blasphemy. Page 66 of "Reflections from the Wall." "I am not a courier of Christ. I am not a messenger of Christ. I am a expression of Christ Himself in the earth." John Robert Stevens, SCP Sept 76
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Some things I recall: > He allowed intercession for him to go for years, > where people prayed for him to breakthrough to > 'resurrection life' since he identified himself as > the "first fruits." He repeatedly said that > everyone if the fellowship would benefit by making
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40yearsin2016 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -BALAAM'S COUNSEL--THE TACTIC OF SATAN Balaam's > counsel lead to Israel worshiping Baal... > Really?! It's not the worship of Baal that you > should be worried about... Maybe Baal worship will subject Gary to airport screening under Trump travel ban.
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40yearsin2016, my pastor said the nephilim triad MS,RK,HY gave John cancer. Transference. RK and HY wives of the old guard. And if we didn't love John, we were channels for him to be hit.
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > pissed-off, controlling authority > figures...devoid > > of compassion. > > > > In the culture of the Living Word, "compassion" is > a word with negative connotati
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Thank you, lily. I'll finish the tale. 19 year old girl was an immature child. The 20 year assistant pastor--inexperienced but given authority. His father an alcoholic. Assistant pastor never drank. Hated drunks. Did he bully because of dad. Probably. Pastor socialized with a small clique of young people. The isolation administered to me--exclusion from the clique. No invitations to the dri
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > John used to make a big deal about > defensiveness...and yet he wouldn't allow anyone > (to my knowledge) question his actions/words. A > double standard, to say the least. When you > believe something to be wrong/inappropriate, it's > important to speak out...whether it comes a
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