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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cloudwatcher Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > And there's this: > > > > "That moment of isolation and separation was > such > > a shocking experience that Jesus died from a > > broken heart" > > > > How
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
And there's this: "That moment of isolation and separation was such a shocking experience that Jesus died from a broken heart" How does he know that Jesus died from a broken heart? I thought for sure it had something to do with having the tar beat out of him while carrying his cross, being stabbed multiple times,bleeding and hung upside down on that very cross and then stabb
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > KBoy actually in this case, i am trying to find > something in the bible that backs up the manifest > sons of God doctrine, since the bible is the book > that JRS and all of the Latter Rain adherents > claim that the bible is their source. > ' This addresses this and the scriptures used
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hope everyone in this forum, on this Good Friday, > is engulfed in a great faith, a grand faith or > even an immense faith--but definitely > not an awesome faith, because > historically that type of faith has only led to > trouble. LOL It feels good to be able to post whatever I want and I w
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Purim, The Spirit of Esther 3-8-2001 Niteroi,Brasil, Gary Hargrave "...And so we bless Marilyn tonight, SHE'S ALIVE? we honor her MARILYN?. Nani Alehe,WTF WHO IS THAT? the beautiful Queen, QUEEN ESTER? OR MARILYN? OR NANI ALEHE? who goes before the King MEANING THE LORD GOD? IT IS HARD TO TELL WHO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT and contends WE DEMAND IT for the salvation, WE ALREADY HAVE
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Thanks for the update-keep us up to speed like this please---good stuff.
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It will undoubtedly be spun as the next phase of > 'The Word for the World--in Flesh', with vigorous > attempts at fundraising in order to spread the > glory of the G-man around the globe. This, of > course, will no doubt find support among the > faithful because the 'vision' that h
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Yep that is how I see it for sure. I just wonder how fast this will happen. Will the churches become unviable and be sold? soon? it is a lot of money to keep in operation. Is it worth it to them as opposed to selling.
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > HEADLINE NEWS: Road to the Vatican Will Go > Through Brazil > > "Ministry Trip to Brazil" -- March 2016 > > > stry-trip-to-brazil-january-march-2016/ > > "The Lord is moving greatly in Brazil, and from > this place we will see change affected all over > the globe.
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
For sure. God Bless your wife AD, and you.
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Found this profound statement: Today it is very easy to find information about everything. Everyone has something to say about anything. Intellectual spazery
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Here is another link Ooops www.apologeticsindex.org/s08.html
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
It is a good history. The writer tends to put his own slant on some things like, commenting on what JRS's motivations or what he was thinking and speculating, just a little to much commentary and value judgments. But the research is right on. I remember much of that as a child. And some things going on behind the scenes were, well, going on behind the scenes.
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > FCSLC Wrote: > > > A church without “integrity” is not a > church > > at all, but as paleface says, “The LW culture > > will kill you and make you "old before your > > time". > > I had so many blatant signs that I ignored about > the lack of integrity and
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Silas is as evil as Gary. He learned from the nastiest human being on earth aside from the dead woman. She is nasty too.
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Ah but. What will happen while the G man's away. Silas will keep on cultivating the relationships there. Of course it is on the back of TLW--for now. Can there be 2 alpha males in this equation? One does not even know Portuguese and is dependent on Silas to translate or he is screwed. I see Silas has ambitions of his own. It is his country after all. He will put up with kissing a
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No way will Rick Disney give up his Wonderland, so > the next best option for the G-man will most > assuredly be Ipanema Beach, Brazil, and then > possibly, the Vatican. I don't think Rick D will have a choice. Who is really in charge. G is definitely smarter and more devious. Rick is a danger to h
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
You are all great!!! I love the comic relief.
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
paleface Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'd like to point out that trying to track with > the "currend word" is extremely stressful. It > will drive you nuts. Churn your guts into ulcers > and give you high blood pressure. And at the end > of the day, you will still never measure up. > Still never break thru into fulfi
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pbxguy Wrote: > > > Years and years of being immersed in a culture > where the blame for experiencing no fulfillment of > the "Word" has been placed on the people... Over and over and round and round---it never stops. I wish someone would listen to those most current months at leas
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
I know, the questions can only be answered by going an untwisting the scriptures that were used where possible. I am sure there were messages that were more basic and edifying. But yes, it was radical ideas that did not, in the final analysis prove to be accurate. The proof? John Stevens died. We have discussed the fact that he said what to do if that happened. Close the doors to the c
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Wrong Sarge. Yours is a very good post. It shows the importance of knowing the bible being able to think critically concerning what you hear. Unfortunately, far too many had no knowledge of the bible and had a unfavorable opinion of Christianity when they first came in. Uneducated in what the scriptures actually say, we were like little birds swallowing whatever we received whole and without
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
kd87 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nice to meet you, Cloudwatcher. I like your user > name. Thanks for the powerful evocation of how the > church made you feel worthless. I could totally > see that in my mom, this constant anxiety and > desperate attempt to better please the powers. > Crazy stuff. Do you remember the song that went, >
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > For all you slackers out there . . . > > "Devote Yourself to God's Kingdom" > > > te-yourself-to-gods-kingdom/ > > This, of course, is code for, 'don't even think > about leaving TLW', and 'get your act/ass > together and pitch in even harder'.
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Welcome KD 87. I do know that there are wonderful people in LW being ripped off and taken advantage of. Some are walking and serving the Lord in the only way they have known. You put up with the abuse, the horrible things that go on and have gone on. trying to remember the good and hoping only that it will get better. But it does not. Churning and churning in the crucible as condemnation c
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > FCSLC > CLOUD > 777 > > The ultimate irony of The Walk was that it > was supposed to be just that--a personal > relationship with the DIVINE. Once the waters > became muddied with the five-fold ministries, > Elijah-Elisha/Paul-Timothy relationships, the > entire emphasis shifted from
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
So they need more money for the kingdom. Reach deep in to your pockets. Hargraves millions will not cover it. The kingdom needs your money your quarters and dimes and pennies rolling around in your pockets and purses. Come and work work work as the Living Word goes out to dozens of people throughout the earth. I mean it isn't like the digital messages couldn't be put on line fo
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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Light 777, I welcome you to our little society > here, > > You are on the right path now, and you are a vital > asset to our forum. I think people are reading > here, and through all the griping and healing > process we go through here, there is a healing > that God is delivering here, f
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