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8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Since I left the Walk, I discovered there is a > vast number of God's people stationed out in the > world doing His work. I thought when I was in the > Walk, all of Christianity was basically the ones > that are out to get us, the persecutors. But I > will give an example that I have found i
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is a distinct possibility that if enough > doors open up for the G-man in Brazil, > irrespective of doctrine, that he may decide his > ambitions outweigh any former allegiance, and > simply walk on to his own greater glory, TLW be > damned. After subsisting on a staple of small > potatoes, w
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
FCSLC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > kBOY wrote: “The most recent version of > insanity.” > > ----------------- > > And impartation of anxiety! > > Have you ever said to yourself, “If the Creator > wants to save me then so be it, otherwise I’m > done worrying about it?” > > Do statistics show any relationship
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The most recent version of insanity: > > "Find a Word, believe it, and prophesy it until > you see it come to pass." > > Ya think? This is very dangerous for some people who may be dealing with dire situations and facing despair in their lives---it is because you need to hear the current
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I really wasn't comparing the Catholic church to > the Walk, saying one was more or less of a cult, I > was showing that the Walk did the same thing as > the Catholic church in viewing their leader as > perfect and infalable. Oh I know---I guess you could call any group that focuses and dei
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
TheJewel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Apostle Dog Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Wow this thing must be out of order again. I > know > > somebody must have posted something in the last > > few days. > > > > I will try this one more time. The reason the > > Wal
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
I think that G's little foray in to Babylon--might be a deep seated psychological problem He spent so many years under the shadow and playing second fiddle to John-and then went directly in to hiding behind a Marilyn's skirts---on his little leash. I think his problem is very basic and explains why he needs acceptance from the pope. 1. He has serious daddy issues 2. He wants
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
It is pretty clear that he will have to repudiate John's teaching such as it is. The walk was born out of a disavowing of organized religion--at the top--Catholicism. So how to get around that or lead the LW's down the primrose path until they believe that the past life of the walk was deception--thus negating the very foundation. Then it stands to follow that the premise for the
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Saw enough Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There was a period of time after JRS died where > Gary claimed to have a revelation that Satan had > been bound as a result of John's death and that if > you really had perception you would be aware that > the spirit of Satan was not present. These many > years later, Satan has reappeared as
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
You know, I am a bit suspicious of where this Brazil/Catholic/Pope connection is leading. G and M have renounced so many things that were John Stevens --- important things. And they stood on his dead shoulders to do it--- proclaiming the new day of the Kingdom. When we are talking about the antichrist, with all the ways John Stevens was repudiated even to the point of being told not to listen
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
I think he is trying to prepare the people for he "New Revelation" so they will keep the money flowing. You would think a church would have more to do than hang on every "current word" and nothing else. He took the younger jet set with him and left the old guard behind. The efforts to inculcate the younger leaders is a clear delineation--yes it is a slippery slope and anyone
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
CLOUDWATCHER REPORT . THIS JUST IN-- Now this is food for thought. Is The Church Creating An Atmosphere For the Anti-Christ?
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Clourwatcher, that is a good point you made about > the ultimate ecumenical move, just unite all the > religions. The Pope has already said that they > are all the same anyway, Gary Hargrave would go > for such an Antichrist stand, has he now already > proven to be anti-Christ when he and his J
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
FCSLC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Apostle Dog. I have to laugh when you use the > words, “walking out now” instead of leaving. > It comes to mind that they’re ‘walking’ > because they haven’t enough money left after > being fleeced for every dime to either own an > automobile or pay for gas. Ya think?
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
HBL---that's a good one--keep em comin'
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > I THINK that Gary Hargrave intends to move down to > Brazil so he can be treated like a god, and the > Brazilian Walk members still have a fondness for > the Pope. That is what I THINK. It is obvious that > a right winger like Hargrave is not telling the > truth about praying for an
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Tbank you for the info. I have been lurking for some time with technical problems signing up. But it is good now. I appreciate this board. I am sure you know how difficult it is if you still have family members on the inside you are new to life on its terms, and the people you know would never understand. I love the sense that there is something common in our experience that reflects th
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
I am not sure I know what is going on--how long does it take before posts are displayed and how do you confirm that your post went through--I posted to the same reply twice because it did not show that my post went through and I checked back anf found I posted twice.Halp@!!@
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > One thing however is true, and I didn't tell them > this because they would find that they could > actually make more money by putting it out there > for people to listen to it, and the reason i > didn't say this earlier is because there is enough > poison on the internet wi
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Thank you for your kind welcome. Lol--I was trying to think of ideas so the actual cd-the plastic did not go to waste. Being the "current word" becomes obsolete with the next iteration or regurgitation and repackaging of the LW circular conversation in yet another twist or variation on the theme. Yes, a fitting end to that life or shall I say "lifeless" cycle. No one
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Hello Paleface, thanks for the welcome. LOL I was wondering what I could use those shiny cd's for. And being that the "current" word becomes obsolete -only to reappear as a regurgitated variation on the theme in a shiny new package in that circular conversation, I think it is safe to say that scaring the birds would be appropriate end of that life; or shall I say "no life&qu
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Apostle Dog Wrote: I intend to answer my own question. You remember I asked why Living Word Fellowship is not using modern media such as the internet to "get the word out" is because Living Word Fellowship from the beginning had no intention of "getting the word out." It has always been an exclusive club of spiritually arrogant people that liked to sit in their little close
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
12 years ago
ashleylee
I did some research on the CVS after going to the classes for a while and found on google a court case which happened in NSW Australia which involved Sammuel Sagan ,Orna Lankry her father who owns and sells major property in Australia and another women who had died and her property. It seemed there was trouble back in Australia over property use for the school and some lady who been in the school
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