QuoteHitch When good things happen, it's all because of the gohonzon. When bad things happen, it's all because of your karma. When really, really bad things happen, you'll never hear about it. - Hitch So true. And the org. keeps pretty silent about the sad stories. I can't find the interview of Alejandra Hernandez sister stating that she always felt protected by her
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@ Nichijew: WOW what a long list of wacky, twisted thoughts and statements. The Greg with the blackbird shooting is too much what I can stand, no thats not enough, that is all so wrong, wrong wrong. They are so SICK, how can anybody claim they are not? After the reading I thought about the Stockholm syndrom and if it could be a possible mass phenomenon, like the 12 Million people in 192 countr
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correction: the Heritage of the ultimate law.... What a strong statement to say the organization is more important than my life. Dangerous Cult!
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The second page of the text.
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More of the poisonous fruitcakes I'd like to serve you today. I often ask myself, what someone might say or think about that stuff, who never heard about SGI before. The following text is from a lecture at the cult retreat, I attach a photo (my scanner is not working) of the text in german, that all can see, this is not my own creation. Please excuse, if its not translated properly, I'm
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@frederick: Hello and Welcome! I'm happy that you've made the first step to the other side of the fence and every post and aspect is so helpfull to me! The sansho goma term is completely new to me, I've not heard before but I've noticed some pretty subtle manipulating and controlling techniques from the leadership (higher ups ) about peoples sexuality. A districts leaders c
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No, I do not buy that with the membersheep is good hearted and well intentioned. That would mean I have to feel guilty for leaving the membersheep. The goodhearted membersheep, that I have left, is protecting a totalitarian system. The man with the poetry is a dictator. They want lifes from cradle to grave and they control every aspect of life and step you make. They have their own medi
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Sorry again me here,have forgotten the most important. TaitenAndProud Quote: They are all doing their best,just as we are. They are not doing their best.
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QuoteTaitenAndProud For myself, I prefer to examine and discuss doctrines and policies - I recoil from generalizing about other people, especially those I don't know or have any information about, as from a hot flame. Whereas I can offer opinions on a public person such as Daisaku Ikeda, whose "poetry" and "photography" and "peace policies" and activities and
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@ shavoy:ikedas doctor titles are for the glossy magazins only and to make the SGI folks bow. An academic title is as we all know a long time of study/ scientific works. Ikeda quit school and had his further education by Toda I've heard. The doctor is a Dr.h.c. as far as I remember you are not allowed by law to use it for official papers, like a passport or a birth certificate but you can ma
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@rattyboy: I can relate to this what you've posted before about the voices you hear and how they would talk about your objects. I often find myself creating an encounter in my mind what I would say to them. Once a friend on fb had told me, that he bumped into an ex-member on the street and they had a discussion about This and that. Afterwards he had made a story and at the next Cousin Rufus
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QuoteHitchTwo red flags of a cult are the doublethink mentality and the thought stopping behaviors to reinforce it. The $oka Gakkai Cult Org. is full of doublethink and silly regressing rituals (here's just one, gakkai "SoulTrain" dancing .) CULT! - Hitch These silly regressing rituals were performed best at the brainwashing in Trets. The whole concept is about givi
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QuoteHitchChanting NMRK in the shower, a nichiren monk shaves his head . Whether it be "Myohomama" Jamie (typical deluded looney-tunes gakkai cult member, btw) or the chanting in the shower monk, they all sound insane to me. - Hitch The razor fetish monk is AWESOME!!! That pleads for psychiatric treatment, I recommend wholeheartedly.
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Great story TaitenAndProud, another one spended most of her life in delusion. I have found that blog, the internet has become a rich cattle range to lure curious or desperate people into the cult. When you do the Chant with Jamie video you have to endure the crescendo chanting until mark 12:00, Voila- here we are. We all know why Jamie hasn't opened the wooden box for the newbies, the koo
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QuoterattyboyGood photo, sixtyseven! And what about that concerned yesman/handler in the background ? What is his body language saying? Watch it the woman is armed with a hand bag.
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I had a rummage in Ikedas photo boxes on fb the last days. And found thousands of them, really I scrolled up 5,000 photos of Ikeda the Master! Only one photo is different in the tone, I would say the expression of the faces and the body-language is about what Polly Toynbee described in her article, how she felt. The woman in the middle, don't know who she is, looks rather unaffected by Sens
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I love the shower part! I heard it so often.That was guidance all the time, you were told, that morning gongyo is the shower to clean your life from fundamental darkness of the nights and start fresh for Cousin Rufus' new day. The evening gongyo was the shower for wash the negativity away. All time the same phrases and associations linking to the manipulative chanting.
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I can't remember if this link has been posted before. The reading was another eye opener to me.The Great Harvard Hoax
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QuoteHitchQuotecorboy I call it derivative legitimacy. Persons in academic specialities that are high prestige and newsworthy are also vulnerable to this kind of set up. Ikeda loves academics; it stems from an inferiority complex deep inside of him (which explains all of his over the top, hundreds of, "honorary" degrees). Ikeda "donates" financial contributions to c
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Hi , I have a nice reading for you! ENJOY! sgi.org news huffingtonpost
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QuoteShavoy The Human Revolutions, both old and new, are nothing but self-glorification for Mr. Ikeda. He is all-knowing, the fairest and wisest of all---noone else, not even leaders, can measure up. The ego floods off the pages. I am sure that at least some current members must catch the whiff of ego and maybe it makes them think. I know it was one of the biggest red flags for me. I happe
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QuoteNichijewHi all. The battle here is to reveal the true nature of the SGI and to encourage and support those who have left the destructive SGI oganization, not to fight among ourselves. You belong to a duplicitous evil organization headed by a conman who would take every last penny of your hard earned dollars if he could.. Nichijew Hi Nichijew. Thank you so much for the support. Ma
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As a fresh out from the cults clasp, I apologize here to everyone if my tone is too much ikedian washed. Please take it not personal: I have a struggle with English and the computer too. However, I would like to contribute to this thread as much as I can, and maybe the longer out ex members want to know about the current cult tactics. They appear to change their faces like a virus, cleanup the o
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QuoteTaitenAndProud In my experience, everyone was supposed to sing it in the original German and "study" the meaning of the lyrics. *eye roll* The words fit the tempo better in the original German - all I can remember of it is "Tochter aus Elysium" :P As you can see, these lyrics fit the SGI focus quite well - themes of militaristic conflict overcome and uniting togeth
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QuoteTaitenAndProud If memory serves, the reason "Ode to Joy" was supposed to be acceptable was that the original Beethoven lyrics, which are the ones the SGI choirs would sing, were NOT Christian! The Schiller lyrics were made up later - there is a long tradition in Christianity of putting their own words to existing classical pieces. Here are Beethoven's original lyrics - it&
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QuotetsukimotoQuoteTaitenAndProudOMG - I never saw this - the Ikeda Adonis!! Look at MEEEE!! Who here went on tozan? Did you see this at Taiseki-ji? WTF??? I went on Tozan, and I did NOT see this. The Nichiren Shoshu priests would not allow Ikeda to put this up at Taiseki-ji. No wonder Ikeda hated them and wanted SGI to break with Nichiren Shoshu as soon as SGI had the numbers and m
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QuoteHitchIncidentally, do any of you old time members remember seeing the Cult Org.'s version of "The Human Revolution" movie back in, what was it, 1974 (?) in America? I do. I was just a little "Hitchie" at that time and was dragged out to see it down in L.A. (I think it was the Shrine Auditorium) for a showing. I remember Toda (the actor) having a mindgasm in pr
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QuoteleeduffieldHitch-those songs would be hilarious if not for the fact they were really sung. SGI USA is like something out of Monty Python from this forum. Over here we had songs written and performed by members but no group songs as such. I agree with you leeduffield. We had not such group songs, but when I compare the videos posted by Hitch from the FNCC there is no diffrence to Trets. Abs
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Quotesixtysevenarticle Found the article at Focus online politics. All in German, maybe you can look for an equivalent article in the US or UK. Would be interesting, if the article is on worldwide media. Ikeda the LEADING BUDDHIST in the headline. Ikeda the good man helps the poor. Ikeda commanding for training of education in Human Rights at global level. Should we all join SGI to learn abou
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article Found the article at Focus online politics. All in German, maybe you can look for an equivalent article in the US or UK. Would be interesting, if the article is on worldwide media. Ikeda the LEADING BUDDHIST in the headline. Ikeda the good man helps the poor. Ikeda commanding for training of education in Human Rights at global level. Should we all join SGI to learn about human dignity
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